Guest lilbabynushi Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Controversies go on without a final say as to whether or not cloning should be allowed. I think that it's morally incorrect and to fool around with nature is one day going to lead to a catastrophe .But how will it affect us? Are we going to be intimidated by our superior clones?Are they going to distort the human mind to such extent that crazy ideas will lead us to do unimaginably horrid things? Please send in your opinions.What do u think about all this?How do u think it will affect us?Positive or negative effects? FEEDBACK ESSENTIAL!!!
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 A good question, but there are a lot of shades of grey to consider. For instance, are you proposing that any human cloning should not be accepted at all, or is vital research into tissue reproduction for medical reasons going to be allowed? What is the moral basis for deciding either way? Applying one set of moral beliefs from one culture to practices conducted in a different culture is generally not recommended. Who gets to decide whether different forms of cloning are 'right' or 'wrong'?
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Who gets to decide? The people who donate their genetic material to the research, that's who. Certainly not a ultraconservative government doing the vaticans bidding.
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Assuming you aren't being tongue-in-cheek, I'd love to watch someone try to enforce that on any large scale.
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 There's plenty of people who would gradly allow scientists to clone them.
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Indeed. And some people would doubtless not bother with the minor inconvenience of permission.
Radical Edward Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 how do you know it's going to lead to catastrophe? and what is the nature of this catastrophe?
aman Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 I'm against it now. Maybe in the future. If you ask now why some fail and some don't, the smartest researcher will still say I don't know. We have to get long past that. Just aman
Guest lilbabynushi Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Okay let's look at it this way.Cloning can cause genetic problems ,diseases,and mutations.Look at Dolly,the cloned sheep.She's been diagnosed with arthritis.I'm not saying that it HAS TO BE because of cloning.But some scientists do believe so. If we use stem cells to regrow damaged organs ..it's okay.In fact..nothing like it..but why reproduce an identical human being?What purpose does that serve in practical terms?It's a waste of resources.Science has helped create robots and high tech machines to do great work so why do u need cloned people?Cloning is good when it serves a meaningful purpose.I definitely agree with stem cell research and regrowth of organs because such work is going to be a medical breakthrough.I mean we can then cure diabetes and so many other diseases..maybe even arthritis..a disease that so many people have contracted. But cloned humans have no use at all.Think about it.Some research has also shown that their life is short.The people who have been cloned....their lives get short too.Science should not be bent upon increasing unecessary risks to civilization.I don't mean to be ignorant.I'm not saying this because of some religious purposes..it's just a matter to resourcefulnessand logic. Scientists have all the rights to expand the horizons of knowledge but if it hurts life..it's not worth it. I would appreciate all feedback.Feel free to send in a private message too. My email add is naughty_anushka@yahoo.co.in
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 So by that logic we also ought to stop people with disabilities from reproducing. Please don't say it's wrong for science to do what nature does anyway (think identical twins).
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 I don't know of any robot or high-tech machine that can do what people do, clones or otherwise. Unless you consider chess supercomputers, but in that case I think a human playing against their clone would be scientifically far more rewarding than Kasparov Vs Deep Blue Mk 36.
Aardvark Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Watching a clone play chess would be like watching twins play chess. Of no particular interest. Super computers and the possibility of AI is interesting.
Sayonara Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Originally posted by Aardvark Watching a clone play chess would be like watching twins play chess. Of no particular interest. Super computers and the possibility of AI is interesting. It would not be like watching twins play chess exactly. It would be an opportunity to study environmental and social factors affecting development of genetically identical entities without the interference of those pesky drifts and twin-do-better syndrome.
fafalone Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Robots could run fast food restaurants with only 1 human maintaining them at any given time, but the paranoia of the masses who depend on that for living will take a long time to subside.
Aardvark Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Alright, it wouldnt be exactly like watching twins, but for all practical purposes it would be like watchiing twins who had been seperated and raised in different environments. Of some interest, but not overwhelming scientific importance. Cloning needs some more arguments in its favour to persuade people.
Aardvark Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 and i doubt the bit about the fast food restaurant, robots are logical, customers arent. I know from bitter experience.
aman Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 In the future if everybody was born with a twin brother or twin sister it would solve a lot of medical problems. Maybe prenatal cloning isn't too far away either. Just aman
fafalone Posted February 11, 2003 Posted February 11, 2003 I'd rather deal with a robot than a human any day. They won't screw my orders up (provided they're not running windows), like the screwup that made me sick today. Sour cream is disgusting...
aman Posted February 11, 2003 Posted February 11, 2003 If we just clone the body without the brain and put AI in then it wouldn't make mistakes. Just aman
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