Obelix Posted May 23, 2011 Posted May 23, 2011 Ok, let's make it more interesting! Let [math]G[/math] be a group, and suppose there exist three consecutive integers: [math]n-1, n, n+1[/math] such that: [math](ab)^{n-1} = a^{n-1} b^{n-1}, (ab)^n = a^n b^n, (ab)^{n+1} = a^{n+1} b^{n+1}, \forall a,b \in G[/math]. Show that [math]G[/math] is abelian. Also show that such a conclusion needs not hold if the condition is assumed for only two consecutive integers.
DJBruce Posted May 23, 2011 Posted May 23, 2011 PM me if you want the answer! Any reason you keep posting random problems? I know you say they aren't homework, but it certainly seems like they might be.
DrRocket Posted May 23, 2011 Posted May 23, 2011 Ok, let's make it more interesting! Let [math]G[/math] be a group, and suppose there exist three consecutive integers: [math]n-1, n, n+1[/math] such that: [math](ab)^{n-1} = a^{n-1} b^{n-1}, (ab)^n = a^n b^n, (ab)^{n+1} = a^{n+1} b^{n+1}, \forall a,b \in G[/math]. Show that [math]G[/math] is abelian. Also show that such a conclusion needs not hold if the condition is assumed for only two consecutive integers. Making it interesting would be good. But this isn't interesting -- just parlor tricks. We have [math](ab)^{n-1} = a^{n-1} b^{n-1}, (ab)^n = a^n b^n, (ab)^{n+1} = a^{n+1} b^{n+1}, \forall a,b \in G[/math] and taking inverses [math](ab)^{1-n} = b^{1-n} a^{1-n}, (ab)^{-n} = b^{-n}n a^{-n}, (ab)^{-n-1} = b^{-n-1} a^{-n-1}, \forall a,b \in G[/math] So [math] ab = (ab)^n(ab)^{1-n} = a^nb^nb^{1-n}a^{1-n} = a^nba^{1-n}[/math] [math] ab = (ab)^{n+1}(ab)^{-n} = a^{n+1}b^{n+1}b^{-n}a^{-n} = a^{n+1}ba^{-n}[/math] Thus [math] a^nba^{1-n} = a^{n+1}ba^{-n}[/math] multiplying on the left by [math]a^{-n}[/math] and on the right by [math]a^n[/math] we have [math] ba=ab[/math] . QED As to the insufficiency of two of the three conditions, consider a non-abelian group [math]G[/math] of order n, for some n. The last two conditions are satisfied. since [math] a^n=1 \ \ \forall a \in G[/math] I am about through with this sort of thing.
mooeypoo Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 ! Moderator Note moved to homework help. Please read our rules and post threads in their rightful place, Obelix; don't evade our rules by posting homework problems in other forums.
baxtrom Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 I am about through with this sort of thing. There, there, DrRocket!
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