matrix of DNA

[Athena]

If the 64 DNA code is put in a matrix, what information might result?

[Athena]

Okay, can anyone explain how a matrix is used? What kind of information can be plugged into one and what kind of information can we expect to get back?

 

The Chinese I Ching matrix has what we can imagine to be the 64 DNA code, if fits perfectly in the center of the Aztec matrix. I need to find better words for saying being able to build a bridge doesn't mean having math skills and physics theory. The ancient understanding of the matrix may have been very different, but I want to understand what we can understand today about the matrix.

[DJBruce]

Okay, can anyone explain how a matrix is used? What kind of information can be plugged into one and what kind of information can we expect to get back?

 

A matrix is just a rectangular array that is hand for storying and displaying things, simplistically you can think of it as a type of chart since each row and column represent something. The entries of a matrix can be number, variables, or even expressions, and so there are numerous different things you can get out of a matrix depending what your matrix represents. Matrices can be used for things like exploring the structure of networks to finding if a linear function between finite dimensional vector spaces is invertible. That being said matrices are not that special by themselves, but instead become useful when tied with another mathematical field.

 

As for putting the 64 codons into a matrix I am not sure if I see an practical application, however, my guess is that a biologist might be able to come up with something.

 

 

 

 

 

[imatfaal]

This is fairly standard way of displaying the 64 3bit codons of DNA - obviously it is a matrix with three dimensions but for readability is drawn in two

 

 

The terms like Phe - are shortened names of the amino acids Phe - is Phenyl Alanine , Leu is Leucine etc.

 

Table copied from here http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/nucleic-acids-to-amino-acids-dna-specifies-935

[Athena]

Than you DJBruce and Imataaf.

[imatfaal]

Athena - I am not a great fan of mysticism within mathematics, but I can see where the attraction comes from

 

You might want to look into the great German Mathematician Gottfried Leibniz and his work on the binary number system in which he looked at (in some accounts was inspired by) I-ching and the work of Chinese Mathematician Shao Yung.

 

Whilst I can see the 64 link with the codons of DNA and i-ching - the 64s are different 64s if that makes sense. I-ching is binary ie 6 bars which can be in two forms (2^6=64) whereas DNA codon is 3 bases with 4 variation (4^3). I just see those as different - but that may just be me.

[Athena]

Athena - I am not a great fan of mysticism within mathematics, but I can see where the attraction comes from

 

You might want to look into the great German Mathematician Gottfried Leibniz and his work on the binary number system in which he looked at (in some accounts was inspired by) I-ching and the work of Chinese Mathematician Shao Yung.

 

Whilst I can see the 64 link with the codons of DNA and i-ching - the 64s are different 64s if that makes sense. I-ching is binary ie 6 bars which can be in two forms (2^6=64) whereas DNA codon is 3 bases with 4 variation (4^3). I just see those as different - but that may just be me.

 

A bigger thank you this time. I didn't take the I Ching matrix seriously until someone used it to show it can be used to identify our acupuncture pressure points. That got my attention. Also it was a scientist who studies time who pointed out when the I Ching is put in a graph it looks like a heart beat that stops beating after thousands of years of beating. You might guess I don't know enough about math to understand the previous explanations by you and Immatfaal, so to me all the math is mystical. I want to express great frustration at this point. Why are some people so stuck up about what they know and so rude about what others think? Like how do they justify being so critical others, when math is mystical. What are the rules? I should believe what this person says, because the science community says so, but not what someone else says, because the science ignore that?

 

How many have studied the Aztec factor enough to have an unbiased opinion? The I Ching and Aztec matrix deal with forces. It appears to me the matrix is well suited for this.

 

I love your terminology, because if I have any chance of understanding math, it is through language. You say "I-ching is binary ie 6 bars which can be in two forms (2^6=64) whereas DNA codon is 3 bases with 4 variation (4^3). " Okay, Binary means two- "The opposite is beneficial; from things that differ comes the fairest attunement; all things are born through strife." Heraclitus. I think that statement includes math and science, and it is mystical. I think we are killing our ability to discover by crushing out hint of the mystical. Now we move to 4, because DNA has 4 variation. Four is the mother of substance. This is the archetype of volume. and I am out of time. I would be very happy indeed if this discussion continued.