Faith without works and proof is false faith.

[Greatest I am]

Faith without works and proof is false faith.

 

Scriptures, on the issue of works, contradict each other.

 

Some scriptures and Christian sects push the notion that faith alone in God is all that is required to earn heaven.

 

Some scriptures indicate that without works, living the theology and applying it to reality, that whatever faith we claim to have is useless and that those souls are lost.

 

The notion of being part of a community where individuals looked out for each other and shared whatever it had was the key and the only reason Christianity became the religion that it is today. I mean this in the sense or size only. In reality, Christianity no longer bases it’s theology and being saved on works.

 

Perhaps this is why the Church is so fragmented today and losing the battle for the hearts and minds of the population.

 

People usually do what they see as profitable in one way or another for themselves. Today, looking at Christianity, from inside or outside, the population does not see a profit in remaining in or joining Christianity due to this notion that faith is all that is required.

 

Without works, will Christianity die?

 

Do you have to live your faith or is faith without works and good deeds good enough?

 

What was it that James told Peter.

 

Demons have faith in God and it is likely stronger than man’s faith because they know for certain of God’s reality yet it does them no good. Faith, belief that is not based on proof, is thus useless.

 

Regards

 

DL

 

 

[John Cuthber]

You are muddling two issues; proof and action.

Speaking purely hypothetically,

A baby who dies before they have any chance to do wrong will (at least according to some religions) enter heaven.Though they have no faith.

As you day, a Demo, who knows that God exists and therefore has faith doesn't get to heaven.

A saint who has faith and acts properly gets to heaven.

A sinner ends up in hell in spite of his belief.

So, it seems that faith has nothing much to do with it.

It's actions that make the difference.

 

Faith without acts is useless.

 

Proof can not have a lot to do with it. Unless you are a demon, you don't have proof.

[Greatest I am]

You are muddling two issues; proof and action.

Speaking purely hypothetically,

A baby who dies before they have any chance to do wrong will (at least according to some religions) enter heaven.Though they have no faith.

As you day, a Demo, who knows that God exists and therefore has faith doesn't get to heaven.

A saint who has faith and acts properly gets to heaven.

A sinner ends up in hell in spite of his belief.

So, it seems that faith has nothing much to do with it.

It's actions that make the difference.

 

Faith without acts is useless.

 

Proof can not have a lot to do with it. Unless you are a demon, you don't have proof.

 

I agree.

We should all walk our talk and not just with religion.

 

Regards

DL

[ponderer]

You are muddling two issues; proof and action.

Speaking purely hypothetically,

A baby who dies before they have any chance to do wrong will (at least according to some religions) enter heaven.Though they have no faith.

As you day, a Demo, who knows that God exists and therefore has faith doesn't get to heaven.

A saint who has faith and acts properly gets to heaven.

A sinner ends up in hell in spite of his belief.

So, it seems that faith has nothing much to do with it.

It's actions that make the difference.

 

Faith without acts is useless.

 

Proof can not have a lot to do with it. Unless you are a demon, you don't have proof.

 

Wouldn't Angels have proof?