mloh Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Dear all, i had made few times the krebs-HEPES solution. And i found that the solution tend to be cloudy with precipitate. expecially when i add in CaCl2.2 H20, after the sodium HEPES. I tried turn over, which means that i add in CaCl2.2H20 ,then i add in sodium HEPES. But it's still turn to cloudy solution. I would like to ask that is it very important that the order to put in the chemicals? and if i continue to use the cloudy solution, will it affect my assay? for you information, the solution is clear before i add in the calcium cloride ot the sodium HEPES, and i also add very slowly for these two chemicals....thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papaver Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Do you adjust the pH value? You can try to add the CaCl2 after you "finished" your buffer (which includes the pH). Or it may help to add a CaCl2 solution after sterilizing (autoclaving) the buffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Does the buffer contain a carbonate buffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloh Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 yes....i did checked the pH values today. It's about pH9.0, and when i add in the HCl, the cloudy solution turn to clear already and the pH is about pH 7.48. thanks to remind me the pH values! () Do you adjust the pH value? You can try to add the CaCl2 after you "finished" your buffer (which includes the pH). Or it may help to add a CaCl2 solution after sterilizing (autoclaving) the buffer. Thanks for reply, i solve the problem right now, as the sodium HEPES is a salt which will increase the pH values. It's go down when i add in HCl (and the cloudy solution turn to clear now..hehe...). However, I did add sodium bicarbonate, i would like to ask that will it affect the pH values also? Thanks! Does the buffer contain a carbonate buffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldOfBiochemistry Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 pH and temperature can "clean" solutions, if they are in the correct values. yes....i did checked the pH values today. It's about pH9.0, and when i add in the HCl, the cloudy solution turn to clear already and the pH is about pH 7.48. thanks to remind me the pH values! () Thanks for reply, i solve the problem right now, as the sodium HEPES is a salt which will increase the pH values. It's go down when i add in HCl (and the cloudy solution turn to clear now..hehe...). However, I did add sodium bicarbonate, i would like to ask that will it affect the pH values also? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Bicarbonate is also a buffer, however heating it (e.g. during autoclaving) changes the equilibrium and it will get lost (in form of CO2). This can affect your final pH, depending on the concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mloh Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 oic....Thank you for you all kindly explanation. Hopefully that i can do my assay well. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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