Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 I agree with "greatest i am", if one cannot judge god by its so called actions then its not a level playing field, god too must be accountable to the so called morals it itself created in all the so called holy books. Why should humans be on a level playing field with God?
Charm Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 An all forgiving God would, by definition, never punish. What definition? .... What should our God look like if not a man? Does it matter what God looks like? That is all I need. As a Gnostic Christian, I can be ahead of their thinking. What is a 'Gnostic Christian'? I agree with you that hell is not supposed to be a good place.That is one of my points. God used it going against scripture. God was overcome by evil. 'Hell' is the 'grave' where good and bad go. God does not punish people 'for ever'. God is not overcome by anything, or He wouldn't be God surely. Here's a funny short video to watch: http://www.martinzender.com/crack_o_dawn/save_yourself_from_hell.htm Scroll down to 'report 42'.
Greatest I am Posted September 11, 2011 Author Posted September 11, 2011 What definition? Does it matter what God looks like? What is a 'Gnostic Christian'? 'Hell' is the 'grave' where good and bad go. God does not punish people 'for ever'. God is not overcome by anything, or He wouldn't be God surely. Here's a funny short video to watch: http://www.martinzen...f_from_hell.htm Scroll down to 'report 42'. “Does it matter what God looks like?” It seems to matter to other animals and I think we should take a lesson from them. The God of ants is an ant. The God of lions is a lion. The God of man, has always been a man. Who but a man van put voice to the will of God? Even an imaginary God like bible God. Man has always spoken for whatever the word God means. My God is the same as your God. A man. As to what Gnostic Christians are. Basically a group with superior reading of scriptures that mostly go against the usual immoral Christian position. Regards DL
Charm Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 "Does it matter what God looks like?" It seems to matter to other animals and I think we should take a lesson from them. The God of ants is an ant. The God of lions is a lion. The God of man, has always been a man. Who but a man van put voice to the will of God? Even an imaginary God like bible God. Man has always spoken for whatever the word God means. My God is the same as your God. A man. As to what Gnostic Christians are. Basically a group with superior reading of scriptures that mostly go against the usual immoral Christian position. Regards DL When you say God is a man, do you mean with a body like ours e.g flesh and blood etc? I'd like to explore 'Gnostic Christianity'. Would you be interested in starting a thread regarding this? If your position is the right one, then I'd like to know why.
Greatest I am Posted September 12, 2011 Author Posted September 12, 2011 When you say God is a man, do you mean with a body like ours e.g flesh and blood etc? Absolutely. If you know a bit of history youe will know that the ancient kings or Emperors would have themselves declared to be Gods and their sons, sons of God. Have ye forgotten that ye are Gods? ---Jesus. I'd like to explore 'Gnostic Christianity'. Would you be interested in starting a thread regarding this? If your position is the right one, then I'd like to know why. Pointless, unless you are admitting that the morals of the God you follow are crap. If you are, I am there for that and you will get your O P. Regards DL
Charm Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I know that men have been refered to as 'gods' or 'mighty ones'. Flesh and blood 'mighty ones' are not the same as Elohim surely? Elohim (whether that is one or more?) is eternal and is spirit. You quoted Jesus saying 'ye are gods' to support your view, so I also cite the bible where it talks of God not being a man, being eternal and being spirit. I will admit that the morals of the God of the Bible don't seem to be consistent. On the one hand He says 'do not murder' and then orders the Israelites to perform genocide on the Caananites. Can I 'love' or believe in this God? It's very hard to. God admits He creates evil as well as good. Do you believe God does not creat evil? If you don't, where does it come from?
questionposter Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Even though good and evil are relative, I hardly doubt that the thing a lonely, depressed and suicidal person needs is eternal damnation.
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