Ambition On Acid Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 To cut a long story short, as they say , I'm throwing together a kind of "pub quiz" for some friends - it's maths based. The idea is you have to find sums for certain numbers but you're not allowed to use some basic maths operations. Now I just need clarification on something: If you weren't allowed to use subtraction when you're coming up with sums would you still be allowed to use negative numbers? (e.g. -4 + 5) I've never been sure whether, when you do a simple sum like "5 -3" you're doing "+5 - +3" or what you're actually doing is "+5 -3" I've never been sure because you can do sums like " -5 - -3" as well Clarification appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMcC Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 To be blunt - if you can be confused by your own rules then I think you may start some sort of riot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambition On Acid Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 To be blunt - if you can be confused by your own rules then I think you may start some sort of riot! ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) You could say that there is no such thing as subtraction, but there is always an additive inverse and zero is the additive identity. So, for all [math]a \in \mathbb{R} \:\: \exists \:\: (-a) \in \mathbb{R} [/math] such that [math]a +(-a) = 0 [/math]. Edited September 1, 2011 by ajb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrRocket Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 You could say that there is no such thing as subtraction, but there is always an additive inverse and zero is the additive identity. So, for all [math]a \in \mathbb{R} \:\: \exists \:\: (-a) \in \mathbb{R} [/math] such that [math]a +(-a) = 0 [/math]. This is :1) absolutely true and, 2) unlikely to be fully appreciated in the environment of your average pub, by your average pub denizen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 This is :1) absolutely true and, 2) unlikely to be fully appreciated in the environment of your average pub, by your average pub denizen.. I am not sure any pub quiz about mathematics will be fully appreciated in just about any pub. Unless it is very close to a mathematics department. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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