qijino1236 Posted September 24, 2011 Posted September 24, 2011 This only my rambling ideas and in this context I remove all my pride. Not my personality pride…that is sacred to you. From now on I will refer the removing of that separate pride as prode…a new word I made up. And the sacred pride that you need to survive as human being as just plain pride. Pride is still pride, the type of pride that makes you proud to be you – your personality. On the other I believe that if all prode is removed then we could get very close to solving the mysteries of the universe. I would really like in this forum for all prode to be removed even if you don’t know what prode is exactly yet. Removing prode is just TEMPORARY removal of pride to work together to create a good idea with others. Prode has to be absolute though, which probably doesn’t sound good, and I don’t know if it is a good thing either...but by my definition removal of prode has to be absolute. Removal of prode takes into account all angles of other individuals opinions, truths, etc. This is why I think removal of prode could be a bad thing(I don’t know though)….since removal of prode is absolute, your ideas, morals, thoughts, even personalities, etc. will have to be constantly changing(but it is only temporary). Since they are constantly changing you don’t have to call them morals, thoughts, personality(You could think up of your own word for those)…Example: marals, thights, purseonailite, etc. So I am now removing all my prode....these are not are not my beliefs, these are my beelufs(aka constantly changing temporary beliefs ). So when I talk about beelufs, it only applys to the removal of my prode. These are my beelufs, I beeluf in these possibilities: ONCE AGAIN THIS NOT A BELIEF, NOT A RELIGION, NOT A MORAL, NOT A PERSONALITY, NOT A SCIENCE, this is my rambling no-prode ideas(beelufs) being excreted from my inside head goo and I would like people to challenge it in a no-prode way in order to not argue, but to better understand the mysteries of the universe in an commonality kind of way: I beeluf some of the keys of the mysteries to the universe can be solved through our words. When the first intelligent Homosapiens, Neathertals, etc started evolving speech this is probably what happened to the first speech evolvers: They looked at a rock and gave it a name eventually called a word…”uga” perhaps They then looked at a tree and made a different word for it…”buga” perhaps. So every new thing had a different name. at the first the new words were probably purely physical things: tree, rock, sand, water, stick,man, chimpanzee, blood(“red buga”), etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Way later on the word tree, chimpanzee, and man became another word, carbon, in this sense: And carbon, hydrogen, and helium are another word ….element And proton, neutron, electron, quark…are another word element. I beeluf some of the keys of the mysteries to the universe can be solved through the similarities between our words. After the physical words(computer scientist, Jesus, Mohammed, Christian, Vlad the Impaler, Muslim, lesbian, man, woman, chimpanzee, tree, snake, sky, wind, universe, alien) were all created, as time went on some non-physical things became words. Examples : time, god, science, soul, real, unreal, poor, rich, eternal, love, hate, thought, idea, religion, moral, immoral, personality, pride, lazy, hard work, afterlife, ethics, ying and yang, spirituality, Christianity, Islamic, existence, apartheid, race, math, hope, faith, longing, needing, homosexuality, straight, happy, sad, apathy, sympathy, physical, non-physical, word, conspiracy, communism, democracy, etc. What if we took all the non-physical words and just like America put them into a melting pot called non-physical words. Then we decided to take the non-physical words that were the MOST significant to us out. Everybody in the universe (including extraterrestrial intelligent life) would pick out a different set of non-physical words. BUT I beeluf there would be universal constants throughout all of the universe of non-physical words all intelligent life picked out of the pot. These universal constants are probably words like this: love, hate, thought, afterlife, moral, immoral, happy, sad, pride, soul, etc…things directly related to emotion, life, and learning. A majority of intelligent beings I beeluf would pick out science and god also. Then we decided to take out of the remaining non-physical words, the 3 non-physical words that are the most flexible words I beeluf it would be: love, hate, and thought. When I said flexible I meant this: The thing about these three words is that they apply to all of the other words…including the physical words. Example: religion ….relates to maybe love, maybe hate, and thought….happy: relates to maybe love, maybe hate, and thought… love: relates to maybe love, maybe hate, and thought….chimpanzee: relates to thought and maybe love or maybe hate(I relates to thought In that the word “chimpanzee” could not have come into existence without intelligent life creating or thinking of it. THE MOST FLEXIBLE THOUGH OF ALL OF THE WORDS IN THE UNIVERSE THOUGH IS “THINKING” OR “THOUGHT”..IT APPLYS TO ALL OTHER WORDS IN THE UNIVERSE SINCE WORD COULD NOT HAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE without intelligent life creating or thinking of it. Not only did the actions of the minds (thinking or thought) (alien or terrestrial intelligent life) create every word in the universe , but also the actions of the minds(including non-intelligent life) created all the ideas, beliefs, thoughts, etc… behind all the non-physical words in the universe. So we now have all non physical ideas, beliefs, thoughts figured out …now for the physical Now, think of this one sentence: How can physical existence begin, and how can physical existence not begin if we exist, and how could there possibly ever be absolutely nothing? This question is so simple, yet it has never been answered by any human life. This is when the no-prode thing really, really needs to be used…I use it and I keep every opinion on this in back of my head for safe keeping. No theory is rejected by me because most of it is done through love. Is there actually nothing and we are all in a dream? Here are a few good movies exploring the complexities and beauties of the universe. Rabbit Hole The Nines – awesome ending The Tree of Life The Matrix I watch these movies and keep all the ideas in my head. Stephen Hawking thinks that he has answered how existence began part. I respect Stephen Hawking very much but I have my doubts due to him just saying “trust me” instead of trying to explain throughout the Episode of Curiosity – “Did God create the Universe?”. But I throw away my prode and keep his ideas in my mind and hope I can learn more about his theory and ideas on how the universe was created from nothing. I never hold back in scientific learning, yet at the same time I do hold onto the idea of god. I listen to everything atheists have to say about this subject and keep that also in my mind. I want to really, really know why they do not believe in God…and I want to really , really know why I do believe in God. Do I believe? My beeluf is to turn off my prode and speak with kindness to everyone around me without judging them because of their beelufs. Then I want to transport myself into their perspective and take into account all the circumstances of their life. If they have lived in a strong Christian, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu etc.. household for all their life I don’t get mad at them or try to understand why they believe in what they do , I simply share with them my ideas. It is usually to do with love of family and a strong sense of their culture that people hold onto some dogmatic ideas. As long as they aren’t hurting anyone or themselves, who cares? There is always religious nuts out there that make religion look evil. But there is also great good in religion too. I think I am almost a complete Christian atheist but I am still not convinced. What is god? God is also word thought up by humans. Does that mean we invented god? Yes, we did think up the many, many ideas behind god(some very evil), but does that make god a convenient fairy tale invented by cavemen? In the sense of the idea in my mind of what god is, that is not true. To me god wasn’t made up…to me god is love which is something even cavemen could probably feel(elephants mourn their dead). God is the love I feel for everyone around me. So then I think okay you are an atheist then right because god and love are just words. So you could just say that you believe in love instead of creating multiple synonyms…god and love. So I guess I am a Christian atheist. But then I started feeling my culture and I wanted god to not just be an exact synonym of love and happiness. So then I started really thinking if to me god and love are the exact same thing. I started then thinking about consciousness, how does consciousness come to be out of nothing? Is consciousness connected to my soul? Consciousness is my soul right, they are synonyms right? But consciousness is associated to the brain which is physical thing. The soul is not supposed to be physical. It is supposed to continue on into an afterlife. So are they synonyms to me? Regardless of whether my soul and my consciousness are synonyms, I must ask this question again…. How can physical existence, a consciousness, and a soul begin, and how can a physical existence, consciousness, and a soul not begin if we exist, and how could there possibly ever be absolutely NOTHING(no soul, no god, no science, no love, no happiness, no consciousness, no afterlife, not even(the depressing belief) wormfood, etc? Then I start to feel for the non intelligent life on earth like worms and insects, they are like in hell, how could they live like that(no love, no thinking)? Killing an insect is really a blessing for the insect I think. Will I become a worm after I die and not remember anyone I ever loved and is that the same for everyone else I love when they die? Then I get really depressed and turn to back to loving, learning and living and turn back on my pride. BUT, I still would like to know. Any ideas, additions, revelations, morals, etc? Please use a non-prode approach. Is there an afterlife? How could we possibly prove that there is? Are we all one consciousness(god or love), put into separate physical bodies and not knowing we are all the same consciousness? Are we reincarnated after we die? Are we reincarnated after we die into the same body over and over again(Then I would feel extremely sorry for insects) as time cycles to the beginning and the end for infinite? Do we get to see people who have passed in the afterlife if there is one? Is there a heaven? Is there an end to time? How could an end to time possibly occur? Is there alternate universes? Do you go to an alternate universe version of yourself when you die? How could time have possibly started? Is there an edge to the universe? How could there be an edge(end) to the universe? What do you see when you look through a telescope 1 million times more powerful than the Hubble telescope? Does our mind or consciousness actually create the physical universe for us because how could we exist without a place to be located? Are we a in a huge PC simulation created by aliens that may or may not be living in the simulation also? 1
pantheory Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 I also respect Hawking, but realize his theories are based upon theoretical physics. His ideas about multiverses and types of spontaneous creations of universes from the ZPF I think are pure science fiction. They however are probably loads of fun for him concerning the theoretical physics of the proposal Most of what you propose or are asking, I believe, can only be answered by personal opinion.
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