kellbrook Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) do they or can they use just NSAIDs, acetaminophen or aspirin for minor surgery like for muscle biopsy? Edited September 25, 2011 by kellbrook
Mrs Zeta Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 No, it would be too painful without anything stronger
ewmon Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 can they use just NSAIDs ... for minor surgery like for muscle biopsy? Something less than general anesthesia is possible depending on the surgery itself, but that protocol may require general anesthesia. For example, the doctor could administer a sedative intravenously followed by local anesthesia, and the patient would remain awake yet comfortable and pain-free. Talk to the doctor about this, and ask around about what other doctors are willing to do. Some doctors may prefer the above method (for legal/malpractice reasons, if nothing else). The patient might use NSAIDs (or nothing) afterwards in recovering from the operation. For example, I walked out of the hospital 15 minutes after waking up from hernia surgery and took only acetaminophen for the first 24 hours, whereas the doctor/staff wanted me to stay longer and to administer opiates.
John Cuthber Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 It is obviously possible to do major surgery without anaesthetics. Before they had anaesthetics that was the only option. It was not considered a good thing and the pain killers were hailed as a great improvement.
kellbrook Posted September 25, 2011 Author Posted September 25, 2011 seems like although possible, it would be very painful for minor surgery with just NSAINDs aspirin and acetaminophen, right guys?
John Cuthber Posted September 25, 2011 Posted September 25, 2011 Not just painful, but dangerous. The shock of the pain could kill you.
kellbrook Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 john cuthber, and you don't think the drugs like NSAIDs, aspirin, and acetaminophen alone without local anesthetic is strong enough to combat pain from minor surgery like muscle biopsy? also can you send pm on this site? and how?
kellbrook Posted September 26, 2011 Author Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) is there anything strong enough for pain fom minor surgery like muscle biopsy, that acts locally, and without the need for central anesthetia, but doesn't numb you like local anesthetic? Edited September 26, 2011 by kellbrook
LawfulBlade Posted September 30, 2011 Posted September 30, 2011 Hi Kelly, I've had biopsies taken without pain meds; depending on where they're biopsying, it can be very painful, or not at all. For any biopsy, NSAIDS are forbidden, due to bleeding concerns. They'll also be forbidden during recovery, for the same reasons. Most likely, they'll administer lidocaine or similar, or give you twilight sedation, which is not the same thing as general anesthesia. But a muscle biopsy is a trivial thing, comparatively, unless they're going after a growth. Oh, and, PS, without organ pain, you won't be going into shock. Good luck!
andreena1 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 hi, when my brother got the minor surgery (twice) local anesthesia was used to stop/minimize any pain from the procedure. The other stuff would be used to control post-procedure discomfort. In my brother's case, they had small cyst removed and while he was a little sore after the local wore off, the discomfort was easily tolerable without any further medication.
Suxamethonium Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 It depends. These days medicine is generally tailored on a per patient basis. What anesthesia or analgesics are used will usually vary depending on procedure, patient intolerances and, in some things, patient choice. NSAIDs will probably be contraindicated in surgical type procedures due to anti-platelet effects. Panadol/acetaminophen isn't a true NSAID- so am unsure of it's indication in this regard. My advice is to talk to your doctor/who ever is taking the biopsy.
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