h2o2 extraction

[budullewraagh]

i have a nice large bottle of 40% hydrogen peroxide. unfortunately it is white and viscous. the other ingredients (aside from water and hydrogen peroxide) are: cetaryl alcohol, cetareth-20, stearic acid, cetyl alcohol and phosphoric acid. i froze the solution and the hydrogen peroxide didn't come out. that's not cool at all. it was just a white solid. how can i extract the peroxide?

[ed84c]

why do you want to extract the H202? The other ingredients are there to prevent it from decomposisng, which if purifyed it will do in a couple of days/ week

[budullewraagh]

i want to fractionally freeze it to concentrate the peroxide

[jsatan]

Then add it to sulfuic acid, lol.

I know your game , I want to see what that stuff does to other stuff, lol.

*shouts down the hole* hello is that china?

[budullewraagh]

yeah, let's all make some peroxymonosulfuric:\

i was actually going to use it for its oxidizing properties as a means to not blow things up

 

edit: well sorta

[r1dermon]

why not use some type of nitrate or perchlorate? H2O2 tends to blow things up

[budullewraagh]

because i have only 8oz of potassium nitrate and 8oz of strontium nitrate... i cant buy ANY nitrates, chlorates or perchlorates where i live actually

[r1dermon]

really? why's that? brooks pharmacy sells KNO3 by the 6oz bottle...

[budullewraagh]

mhm, and we dont have a brooks' pharmacy here

[r1dermon]

woooooow, the big apple and no brooks pharmacy....no chem supply stores? i have about 4 within 5 miles of my house...

[budullewraagh]

chem...supply stores? what dat?

 

actually, we have a few glassware sellers around here but theyre so expensive that it's mostly ponitless...and no chemical suppliers. i have no access to nitrates, or halates or perhalates of any sort, for example. i have a great deal of lab work that i would like to do, but i need sulfuric acid for purification and extraction first, which i am having great difficulty obtaining.

[r1dermon]

old batteries? you might also try local colleges and universities. they carry an assortmant of chem's. i've gotten ammonium perchlorate from the UMASS lab for free. dont ask me why they gave it to me...lol.

[boris_73]

why did they give it to you

[YT2095]

i've gotten ammonium perchlorate from the UMASS lab for free. dont ask me why they gave it to me...lol.

be exceptionaly carefull with that stuff, it`s a fire hazzard, and although it has a low DV in comparison to other explosives, it CAN make the DDT!

 

other than that, have fun ))

[ed84c]

Dv?

[boris_73]

it means detonation velocity

[YT2095]

and DDT = Deflagration to Detonation Transition, in case you were wondering

[r1dermon]

yeah i know...i made some rocket fuel with it...works a lot better than KNO3 and sugar. lol. now, wht would happen if i added a catalyst, like red iron oxide, or brown iron oxide...you think it would explode? im using ammonium perchlorate and aluminum powder. REALLY FINE aluminum powder. i dont know the mesh, i got it from a scrap yard. so far it works pretty good. i dont know a good binder to get this stuff into a solid grain, so i just press the powder and punch a core. it makes some good sparks al well as noise.

[YT2095]

Epoxy resin`s good as a grain fixer. poly sorbitol`s ok, but better for plastique, most are rubberised and cast outside the case though, I`de go with the resin idea, it needs no air evap either

[r1dermon]

so i can just mix the powder with the resin until its like..sortof pasty? then cast it and plunge out the air bubbles? will this eventually get hard enough to keep shape? or will it still deform if i touch it?