aman Posted February 22, 2003 Posted February 22, 2003 If I imagine that the center of a black hole can gobble up even light trying to escape with immense gravitational forces at work, and I see the Einstein visual aid of a heavy ball on a stretched sheet as to the black holes effect on space, I find it needs more for the new kids growing up. I'm an old kid growing up so me included. Start with a two dimensional model of a black hole, a dot at the center of a sheet of paper. Would space be to scale at the edges of the sheet but as you get near the dot, would space be compressed? 1"=10miles 1"=100miles maybe like logarithmically as you approach the dot? If space could be compressed to a certain point, then even at the speed of light 1" could never be crossed. Just aman
greg1917 Posted February 22, 2003 Posted February 22, 2003 Pretty hard to give you an answer, seeing as that would occur inside the event horizon of a black hole. Since nothing can be detected inside this sphere around the singularity, then its impossible to determine what happens at all due to quantum physics now being dominant, so unless you can get yourself inside it (again difficult cos you'd be pulled apart) then we'll never know. would space be compressed to any reasonable degree in the region just outside the event horizon?
Radical Edward Posted February 22, 2003 Posted February 22, 2003 quantum mechanics has nothing to do with black holes. In fact quantum mechanics absolutely hates the idea of a black hole. furthermore,you can actually get inside a black hole and survive, however it would be one of the supermassive ones found in the centre of galaxies. you wouldn't suffer the effect of tidal forces immediately on entering the event horizon, but that's pretty academic anyway, since you would never get out.
Michael F. D. Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 On my glance, BH so strong pulls the ambience, that any fluctuations are impossible. BH SMOOTHS all curvature of spacetime in zone its action. This means that existence of any radiations or any object having a mass (this a fluctuation also) are impossible in this zone . For this reason it is untrue to speak that BH does not allow the light abandon its zone. It just does not exists here. Nothing can exist except clean gravity and magnetic field (or something another?). The Black Hole it is a flatiron by which a God smooths all jaggies in universe for correction of His creation.
Radical Edward Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 you seem to lack a working knowledge of what either a black hole, or the Electromagnetic field is. I suggest that you refer to the astrophysics announcement on black holes. I put it there for people like you.
Michael F. D. Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward you seem to lack a working knowledge of what either a black hole, or the Electromagnetic field is. I suggest that you refer to the astrophysics announcement on black holes. I put it there for people like you. I aware of both of them, but I have my own standpoint.
Radical Edward Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Michael F. D. I aware of both of them, but I have my own standpoint. and absolutely nothing to back it up. whatever you describe isn't a black hole. you can't go round calling two entirely different things by the same name
Michael F. D. Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward and absolutely nothing to back it up. whatever you describe isn't a black hole. you can't go round calling two entirely different things by the same name Your (more exactly my) claim it is possible to divide into two questions: 1) Why nothing can not be inwardly BH? 2) Why needs the Absolute Zero in design of universe? Right?
Radical Edward Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 I refer you to my earlier statement about whatever you talk about not being a black hole. I ask, no, implore you to read the announcement in the astrophysics section.
Michael F. D. Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward I refer you to my earlier statement about whatever you talk about not being a black hole. I ask, no, implore you to read the announcement in the astrophysics section. Ok. Then I find no sense in discussions of the question like "What is Black Hole?". If you raise no objection, then I'll name a black object which is observed in universe as a "Black Spot". It is not Einstein's a Black Hole, because it has others characteristics. Are you agree?
Radical Edward Posted May 11, 2003 Posted May 11, 2003 okay, you've explained a universal phenomenon with a different name. you still haven't backed it up or said anything about the magnetic field working differently to the one we all know and love.
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