The Lifters: How?

[YT2095]

electro static repulsion/attraction is quite real (think Electroscope for instance). this has also been explored by Nasa and the military as a means of assising lift (or drag) on certain types of wing where the leading and trailing edge are charged to a certain potential. as far as I know it`s insuficient for flight on it`s own, but can help with fuel economy and few other things I don`t rem.

[slickinfinit]

electro static repulsion/attraction is quite real (think Electroscope for instance). this has also been explored by Nasa and the military as a means of assising lift (or drag) on certain types of wing where the leading and trailing edge are charged to a certain potential. as far as I know it`s insuficient for flight on it`s own, but can help with fuel economy and few other things I don`t rem.

yea I agree I remember a trip to a science fair where a machine would make your hair stand straight up and staticly bond certain objects to the wall is this like a similar process as lifting?

[Cap'n Refsmmat]

No, that's static electricity. A Van de Graff generator.

[slickinfinit]

No, that's static electricity. A Van de Graff generator.

are those easy to make and are they dangerous cause that was kool I would make one lol

[YT2095]

they`re not Too difficult to make, but a certain level of DIY skills are needed.

as for Dangerous, that all depends on what you do with it. the ones used in lab demos cant kill you, but a jolt may make you react suddenly and bump yourself on something or someone, esp if your not expecting it

[YT2095]

Edward, have you considered Gyroscopic Lifters at all?

 

they may also be of interest to you

 

"The principle behind the experiment is very simple. After spinning up the gyroscope to 18,000 revolutions per minute, it is put inside an airtight container and allowed to fall between two laser beams. These record how long the gyroscope takes to fall nearly 6ft between the two beams. Any reduction in the strength of the gravity reveals itself in a slight increase in the time it takes to fall the 6ft.

 

In a series of 10 runs, the team found that the gyroscope took about 1/25,000 of a second longer to fall when it was spinning than when it was stationary - equivalent to an anti-gravity effect of just one part in 7,000… "

 

taken from here: http://ascension2000.com/ConvergenceIII/c04-gravity.htm

 

it`s not exactly "Anti-Gravity" but there are forces at work that require a jolly good explaination!

[ydoaPs]

what is the Biefeld-Brown effect? it sounds like the people don't know what they are talking about. they basicly said that having a charge creates gravity(biefeld-brown effect).

[swansont]

taken from here: http://ascension2000.com/ConvergenceIII/c04-gravity.htm

 

it`s not exactly "Anti-Gravity" but there are forces at work that require a jolly good explaination!

 

AFAIK the Sunday Telegraph isn't a scientific journal, thus no peer review. The quoted areas were written by a science correspondent, so you don't know how much he got wrong in summarizing things. He says that the experiment was in an airtight container, which to me does not imply a vacuum. But there are no details on any calculations of lift rotating body might achieve. I also can't reconcile the "10 runs," "1 part in 7000 difference" and "can't be explained by experimental error." The statistical error on 10 runs is 31%.

 

The next statement about spinning bullets seems to ignore the lift you get from the bullet.

 

Oh, and then there's the aether that keeps getting mentioned.

 

So take all of that with a huge grain of salt.

[insane_alien]

its an ionic wind thats all build one put your hand under it and you'll feel the wind. makes a great silent fan if your too warm (appart from the generator which humms.)

[bascule]

Plug one of these lifters in while it's inside a vacuum and it will remain perfectly still. These work by ionized air, creating a pressure differential. No mysterious "anti-gravity" at work. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.

[insane_alien]

i know how they work i've built one and i know it ain't antigravity and i know they don't work in a vacuum