Howl Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Hi ya this is Howl here, I think I've found away for humans to get wings with but requires grafting but with future help it may become perfected. First off I'd like to state that my idea is inccrediably painful but if your as dedicated as I am i think you can endure it. Secondly it may sound a little out their but aren't all scientific descoveries? Okay, I was thinking that we in a sense collect the requied body parts such as a heart from a horse since its so big an has the ability to pump large amounts of blood through it, there's also a drug they use on cows to make their upper bodys stronger which would be need to help the upper bodys of humans substain the weight of the wings on the back. Then we could take air shaches from birds and find a way to make them bigger so the could be intergarted it into the design so we could fly in high altitudes were the air is thin (but we need to keep in mind that the all the organs we collect have to be keep to a small size so we don't add too much weight). The only red light I've came to is how to make bones hallow but with a little reseach we can find away. I know one of the topics disscused in the past made a good point about having to add the avian and human DNA together but doing it correctly, would also take some time. But I think that if enough of us geniues's got our heads together we could make it work. What are your thought on my porposeal? ~ Howl Edited October 28, 2011 by Howl
Xittenn Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Generally speaking 'scientific discovery' suggests 'empirical evidence' accomplished through 'experimentation' or 'observation.' Although your evaluation allows an outline for what could be experimentally evaluated it leaves much in terms of 'imagination' and is therefore a weak proposal. All I'm saying is these thoughts you are having have been loosely conceived of by many of the members of this forum . . . . . . That said I still place my vote on atmospherically stable magnetically contained plasmas and meat rockets \o_ one day I'll do the math . . . . until then . . . I will program stuff to do the math . . . . . and hope for a solution to scar tissue!
Psycho Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 hope for a solution to scar tissue! If he can molecularly control scar tissue it would help humanity far more than anything else proposed.
Howl Posted October 28, 2011 Author Posted October 28, 2011 If he can molecularly control scar tissue it would help humanity far more than anything else proposed. I don't guys Ik it may appear to be weak but I have a feeling in my gut that its very possible.....but if you don't agree I guess thats just your veiw on things but as for me I'm just going to keep looking into the idea and fix the weak spots. But I must say thank you for your honesty you tell the truth and i like that, I just feel like I can work it out.
Phi for All Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 "I can't wait until they could put wings on humans. Because when they could put wings on humans, they could put wings on pigs, and when they could put wings on pigs, lots of pretty girls from college owe me sex." -Chad Daniels 1
ascendancy Posted November 28, 2011 Posted November 28, 2011 We are already rapidly approaching a permanent end to scar tissue. Currently there is a company in the north east researching something called extracellular matrix, which occurs in virtually all animal forms, but primarily in connective tissue and cartilage. ECM consists of many long proteins, Collagen, which help hold cells in place, and when extracted to make a powder, have an amazing effect on open wounds. What happens in scarring is that collagen normally meshes together randomly to hold the cells as they are, but during healing cells have to re-create the ECM from scratch, and apparently find it much easier to form collagen in alignment in a single direction. Also, in normal healing local cells will produce extra collagen to make up for the ecm lost in the wound. At the end of healing these two factors combine to produce extra collagen and thus a scar. However, when the ECM is placed on the wound as a powder, the cells sense that it is there and thus do not produce their own from scratch, and because they are already in the random order, the healing proceeds not only more quickly but with no scar tissue whatsoever. If you are interested, here are some links for further reading: Wikipedia on Collagen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen Wikipedia on Scar-tissue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar Research article on Production and characterization of ECM powder: implications for tissue engineering applications: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0142961204004399 Generic website dedicated to ECM powders: http://www.ecmpowders.com/
Howl Posted November 28, 2011 Author Posted November 28, 2011 We are already rapidly approaching a permanent end to scar tissue. Currently there is a company in the north east researching something called extracellular matrix, which occurs in virtually all animal forms, but primarily in connective tissue and cartilage. ECM consists of many long proteins, Collagen, which help hold cells in place, and when extracted to make a powder, have an amazing effect on open wounds. What happens in scarring is that collagen normally meshes together randomly to hold the cells as they are, but during healing cells have to re-create the ECM from scratch, and apparently find it much easier to form collagen in alignment in a single direction. Also, in normal healing local cells will produce extra collagen to make up for the ecm lost in the wound. At the end of healing these two factors combine to produce extra collagen and thus a scar. However, when the ECM is placed on the wound as a powder, the cells sense that it is there and thus do not produce their own from scratch, and because they are already in the random order, the healing proceeds not only more quickly but with no scar tissue whatsoever. If you are interested, here are some links for further reading: Wikipedia on Collagen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen Wikipedia on Scar-tissue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scar Research article on Production and characterization of ECM powder: implications for tissue engineering applications: http://www.sciencedi...142961204004399 Generic website dedicated to ECM powders: http://www.ecmpowders.com/ Thank you I'll look into it.
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