I'm pretty mad at my highschool/middleschool teachers

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Personality comes in to it quite a lot.

 

I gave a couple of really good high color books to a set of twins this week.

The girl is enjoying the pictures and puzzles, the boy is not interested in the slightest, he’s out in the yard hunting worms.

We like to think that he is studying for his career as a unemployed labourer.

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I'm in the same situation that most people i have heard of here. The work is so esay and boring that i pay little or no attention to the things that were learning in class but still ace the tests. To me school gets in the way my education because i am more interested in the stuff i do outside of it.

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I can understand why the teachers noly teach facts, thats becuase if they do you will do better on th standardized tests that all schools have to take which will get the school more money so in my opion the fatal flaw is that we rely to much on tests which can really only test how well you con spit facts back and not enough on conceptual things that are harder to test.

[Fortuna]

moreso, i agree with your post. english majors are required to take a science course, albeit not a course that would qualify as a diploma credit course for a science major, nonetheless they have to take it. Are they any less a student than we are?

 

Thank you, that was exactly what torqued me off 20 years ago. I was

a physics major in UG and was required to take English and English Lit. But I had to sit in a class with real English majors and compete against them for my grade.

 

But, when an English major took science or math, they got to go to a watered down science or math class (I guess because they couldn't handle real science or real math) whre no science major could be found for them to compete against.

 

I always thought that this was unfair to the science majors. Interesting to see that the old proverb still holds, "Same merde different day".

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If you look at all this from a practical point of view, it makes much more sense.

 

A balanced mind and body are the ideal outcome.

 

Many scientific discoveries have been artistic in inspiration.

 

Most early scientists were well rounded in their education.

 

The complexity in specific fields means that specialisation is almost a necessity.

 

What you are seeing is an attempt at a practical approach to a real life needs.

 

(I must have endured endless lectures on topics that I thought would never be of any practical use.

I was mistaken.)

 

As far as the system being to blame for bright kids not being recognised and treated accordingly,…well, what is a system other than a group of people.

More specifically - your teachers.

[coquina]

Unless you plan on making a career out of being a student, you are going to get to a point in your job that you are bored. I have done the same thing for 30 years - what do I do to challange myself? I find a science forum where I can talk to people all over the world about neat stuff.

 

Also, things that you are learning now need to last you for the rest of your life. You can read something, understand it, and pass the test. However, if you don't do the same thing on a repetitive basis, chances are you won't remember it. On the other hand, all those practice problems help ingrain what you have learned into your long term memory, you may still need a little refresher later on, but it will come back to you easier.

[Fortuna]

Reverse,

 

I do agree with you about the well rounded education, that really isn't the issue for me. But, where grades are curved, I am in a class in competition with the students whose major was English. So, if I have to compete in an English class with an English major, then an English major should have to compete with me in Science. Or , I should get an English class free of english majors.

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That is unfair.

 

On the up side,

at least you get the benefit of their expertise in your environment.

 

Makes you lift your game.

 

(there needs to be an emoticon for determination).

[silentsailor]

Speaking as a highschool freshman: yes, the education system is screwed. Partially beatable if you put in the effort outside of school - but screwed all the same. Most of the problem, as far as I've seen, is caused by all of the kids who simply don't care and aren't interested in learning. We spend a lot of time and resources trying to bring them up to the baseline, which is necessary and overshadows the need to take a small core of super-bright kids above and beyond. Of course there are GT, pre-AP, and AP classes, but those often have the same misgivings. I've wormed my way onto AP fieldtrips and sat through a few zero-hour courses, and they seem to be better depth-wise, but those are rare occasions because the teachers are generally worried about the maturity levels and such of 9th/10th graders ((which is stupid, but whatever, it's their prerogative)). So resources are limited. And while it's possible to teach yourself a LOT, you can only go so far without having a structured environment for support.

 

Then again, I've got a week of standardized testing to sit through next week so that might be the cause for this irritability :\

 

Oh, and for all of the people who say that even though they ace tests, they're failing because homework sucks: I see a LOT of this and it's completely true. But the way I see it, cutting through the crap now and taking the time to do the work - even if it's easy, and even if it's a total waste of time and effort - is worth it if it gives you the opportunity to prove that you actually know what you're talking about.

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As some consolation .

could you imagine the horror of living in a world where all those kids that did not want to learn where simply tossed out at an early age.

 

It would be a land ripe for superstition and crime.

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[paganinio]

Hey all' date='

 

Im in yr 10 in the uk and i feel that the way our school teaches is flawed. The problem is that the more able students arent challenged enough and dont really make the most of their education and also as most of my friends agree our school spends way too much time teaching us subjects that are not too important we do 2 hours of food technology and only 3 hours of maths ! what i think is that our curriculum needs to change. sorry i thought i would have a rant about my incompetent school , anyone else have imilar problems?[/quote']

it's ridiculous except that's a FOOD SCHOOL