ewmon Posted December 24, 2011 Posted December 24, 2011 I just noticed this. Any reason why (x+2)x+2/(x+1)x+1 – (x+1)x+1/xx → e as x → ∞? Does it actually do this? I checked it in Excel but can't get past x = 141.
Shadow Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) [math]\frac{(x+2)^{x+2}}{(x+1)^{x+1}} - \frac{(x+1)^{x+1}}{x^x} = \frac{(x+2)^{x+1} \cdot (x+2)}{(x+1)^{x+1}} - \frac{(x+1)^x \cdot (x+1)}{x^x} = (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}\cdot(x+2) - (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x\cdot (x+1)[/math] = [math](1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}\cdot(x+1) - (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x\cdot (x+1) + (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}[/math] At this point, I would argue that [math](1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} \sim (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x[/math] as [math]x \to \infty \wedge (x+1) = (x+1) \Rightarrow (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} \cdot (x+1) \sim (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x \cdot (x+1)[/math] as [math] x \to \infty \Rightarrow \lim_{x\to\infty} (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}\cdot(x+1) - (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x\cdot (x+1) + (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} = \lim_{x\to\infty} (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} = e[/math] But I'd be interested to know if this limit can be solved without the use of asymptotic equalities; it seems L'Hôpital wouldn't lead anywhere. Edited December 26, 2011 by Shadow
mississippichem Posted December 26, 2011 Posted December 26, 2011 [math]\frac{(x+2)^{x+2}}{(x+1)^{x+1}} - \frac{(x+1)^{x+1}}{x^x} = \frac{(x+2)^{x+1} \cdot (x+2)}{(x+1)^{x+1}} - \frac{(x+1)^x \cdot (x+1)}{x^x} = (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}\cdot(x+2) - (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x\cdot (x+1)[/math] = [math](1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}\cdot(x+1) - (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x\cdot (x+1) + (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}[/math] At this point, I would argue that [math](1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} \sim (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x[/math] as [math]x \to \infty \wedge (x+1) = (x+1) \Rightarrow (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} \cdot (x+1) \sim (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x \cdot (x+1)[/math] as [math] x \to \infty \Rightarrow \lim_{x\to\infty} (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1}\cdot(x+1) - (1 + \frac{1}{x})^x\cdot (x+1) + (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} = \lim_{x\to\infty} (1 + \frac{1}{x+1})^{x+1} = e[/math] But I'd be interested to know if this limit can be solved without the use of asymptotic equalities; it seems L'Hôpital wouldn't lead anywhere. Yeah, I tried L' Hopital for several rounds and kept getting indeterminant forms.
ewmon Posted December 30, 2011 Author Posted December 30, 2011 Shadow and mississippichem, thank you for your derivations and comments. Ashamedly, I was more practiced in math than I am now. Do you think this would be appropriate for mathoverflow.net?
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