CPL.Luke Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 http://www.cerncourier.com/main/article/42/5/10 any thoughts I was also wondering how can any neutron star still be considered a star? it would seem that al fusion would have stopped if it was truly composed of neutrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 The second part of your post, CPL ...I was also wondering how can any neutron star still be considered a star? it would seem that al fusion would have stopped if it was truly composed of neutrons. it might still go on shining for millions of years because it is so hot massive things take a while to cool you are raising a point about words: if something is as massive as a star and is hot and shining as a star then can you still call it a star, even if it is no longer fusing elements in its core and generating energy that way also what about gravitational energy, some stars continue generating energy because they continue to contract (convert gravitational energy to heat) even when they are no longer able to do nuclear fusion. would you say that counts? finally, when a neutron star cools down so it no longer glows, what do you call it? a dead star? nature always eludes the net of language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Hey CPL, your link was to a short article in Cern Courier and it mentioned the name Slane and the year 2002 So I went to ARXIV search engine and put in Slane and 2002 and got this http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0204151 the article also mentioned Yakolev, why dont you go to arxiv.org and search Yakolev the scholarly journal article will usually have a lot more and clearer info than the short press release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Hey CPL, if you go to that Slane link I just posted it will have a CITED BY thing to click that finds you all the later papers which referenced this Slane paper In other words, it is a way of getting more recent papers about the same thing. I clicked the Cited By thing and got this http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0305249 it looks cool. it is called Strange Quark Matter in Neutron Stars? - New Results from Chandra and XMM Authors: Markus H. Thoma, Joachim Truemper, Vadim Burwitz notice that these neutron stars are so hot (millions of degrees) that they shine with Xray light (as well as UV visible and infrared) the sun is only a few thousand degrees so it shines with mostly just infrared and visible and a little UV hotter things shine with more energetic light notice that the results are from the Chandra and XMM space telescopes because these are Xray telescopes (not visible light) congratulations for finding the original CernCourier lead, it led to some good stuff on arxiv. someone should do a search with Yakolev and see if more comes up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 I tried "CITED BY" on that last one and got a couple of papers that are actually recent, like October 2004. http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0410407 http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0407155 these are really good they summarize all the stuff that has been figured out about these supercompact stars since the 2002 papers that your CernCourier report noted. it is a really big deal there might be particles which are more fundamental than quarks and they are called "preons" so if you squeeze iron hard enough you get neutron matter and if you squeeze neutrons hard enough you get quarks and then if you keep on squeezing you get "preons" and maybe by observing compact stars astronomers will be able to get evidence of this and again it looks like astronomy/astrophysics is advancing and scouting ahead of the huge accelerators and colliders that they have to build to get ever higher energies, astronomy seems to be guiding the search (providing ideas like dark matter and dark energy, too) I wonder what Severian thinks. he does accelerator particle-physics, and he posts here sometimes. hav yu met? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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