derek w Posted March 3, 2012 Posted March 3, 2012 If you have 2 gravitons,the inverse square law says they will accelerate towards each other,if you can not travel faster than the speed of light,therefore when 2 gravitons that are attracted towards each other reach the speed of light,they must be touching.They must also be the minimum distance possible apart(1 graviton diameter) and have the minimum possible mass?
D H Posted March 3, 2012 Posted March 3, 2012 If you have 2 gravitons,the inverse square law says they will accelerate towards each other,if you can not travel faster than the speed of light,therefore when 2 gravitons that are attracted towards each other reach the speed of light,they must be touching.They must also be the minimum distance possible apart(1 graviton diameter) and have the minimum possible mass? What inverse square law? The only thing that makes sense here is that gravitons, if they exist, would indeed have the minimum possible mass. In other words, the would be massless. Two gravitons would not accelerate toward one another. How could they? Being massless, they could only travel at the speed of light. Nobody yet has a working theory of quantum gravity. Getting a consistent theory that yields both general relativity and quantum mechanics is a rather difficult task. It certainly won't be achieved by looking at things from a Newtonian perspective, which is how you appear to be looking at it.
derek w Posted March 3, 2012 Author Posted March 3, 2012 If 2 masses are attracted towards each other due to the force of gravity,and their velocity increases by v^2 when distance between them is 1/2d. Then if you keep halving the distance between them,their velocity will eventually reach the speed of light,and if you can not go faster than the speed of light you must have reached the smallest possible distance apart.
D H Posted March 3, 2012 Posted March 3, 2012 If 2 masses are attracted towards each other due to the force of gravity Gravitons, if they exist, are massless. and their velocity increases by v^2 when distance between them is 1/2d. You cannot use Newtonian gravity in general relativity, let alone some quantum gravity model. Then if you keep halving the distance between them,their velocity will eventually reach the speed of light,and if you can not go faster than the speed of light you must have reached the smallest possible distance apart. Gravitons, if they exist, will always be moving at the speed of light. Your logic is flawed.
JohnStu Posted March 3, 2012 Posted March 3, 2012 How do you slow gravitons to such a low speed level is my question? Super Black holes?
derek w Posted March 3, 2012 Author Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) If at the speed of light gravitons must be touching,then space is a sea of gravitons touching their neighbours,but an input of energy that slowed gravitons to less than © would separate them and create a hole.Once created a hole could not be refilled by gravitons,the force of attraction across the hole would be less than the force of attraction outside the hole. Of course this line of thinking suggests that particles are made of a collection of holes in a sea of gravitons,and gravity is a distortion,the bigger the hole the greater number of gravitons that are displaced the greater the curvature of space. Edited March 3, 2012 by derek w
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