budullewraagh Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 any P and RP is the "safest", is bad to use. rp is certainly not the safest. sure, it is safer than wp but black, yellow and blue p are more stable than rp.
YT2095 Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 yellow most certainly is NOT, blue I`ve never heard of (sounds expensive that`s prolly why) and Black IS expensive. either way, RP is what`s used, and it`s Acids that trigger the detonation, as is with the Sulpher, infact using KCLO3 is a crude test for sulphuric acid, as it catches fire oh yeah, while I`m at it, the AP... is that the Dimer or the Trimer? TCAP or DCAP?
Gilded Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 "blue I`ve never heard" Me neither. Perhaps bud means black P, which is sometimes called violet P.
budullewraagh Posted November 14, 2004 Posted November 14, 2004 yellow most certainly is NOT, blue I`ve never heard of (sounds expensive that`s prolly why) and Black IS expensive. i was mistaken with the yp, as it is just a mix of rp and wp, which makes it less stable than rp. violet p is also more stable than rp, as it is a mix of rp and black p. black p is not very reactive at all. blue p is incredibly rare and is even less reactive, i believe.
r1dermon Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 its definately not HE inside those exploding targets. i use them all the time, they're classified as fireworks, and as such, they are restricted to low explosives. the highest of which is FP, which is really not a HE. HE is not available to consumers in any form. have fun with that. http://www.ATF.gov browse that, you're sure to find it somewhere.
jdurg Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Nitrogen Triiodide is probably the only HE you can get away with making here in the US. That is for numerous reasons. The first of which is just how unstable it is. Since it is so incredibly unstable, people will have a very hard time transporting it since a flea landing on it will set it off. The second is because it's not something you can keep wet and then leave around. It takes a while to dry out, and a big pile of ammonia/iodine fuming "mush" will draw a lot of attention. As a result, the ATF and police really aren't looking for nitrogen triiodide makers. If they wanted to arrest you for something and couldn't come up with any other reason, sure they could use NI3 as their reason. But if a cop came to your door and saw you making/detonating NI3, they'd probably just give you a naughty slap on the wrist and tell you to knock it off. (Even though it is classified as a High Explosive).
r1dermon Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 oh yeah, i've set those off with a .22lr too. unjacketed lead subsonic casing. its a lot more difficult than with a .223(which works really well) you have to hit it pretty much dead center, but it will work. i wonder how a .17rem would do? heh, those things travel at like 4400fps. thats some energy for ya. from a BB sized bullet.
DandyGurl Posted November 16, 2004 Author Posted November 16, 2004 its definately not HE inside those exploding targets. i use them all the time, they're classified as fireworks, and as such, they are restricted to low explosives. the highest of which is FP, which is really not a HE. HE is not available to consumers in any form. have fun with that. www.ATF.gov[/url'] browse that, you're sure to find it somewhere. Actually it is it detonates. A detonation is a rapid explosion that generates supersonic pressure waves (shock waves) in the surrounding medium. It's HE. The target fully exploded before the bullet passes 1/3" of an inch into it. That bullet is supersonic...
r1dermon Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 and you have a millisecond camera to prove it? or you just watch bullets for a hobby. flash powder does not detonate by itself. it has to be contained. it can self contain itself, but if you only had 1 gram of it unconfined, it would not detonate, it would deflagrate. if you had 20 grams, then it MIGHT detonate its shell, which consists of more FP. if it was HE in those targets, they'd blow a lot more apart than just a cardboard backing. not only that, but its not a snapping high pitched explosion, its a low pitched deep BOOM. which indicates low explosive....ever heard an M80 go off?
r1dermon Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 and you have a millisecond camera to prove it? or you just watch bullets for a hobby. flash powder does not detonate by itself. it has to be contained. it can self contain itself, but if you only had 1 gram of it unconfined, it would not detonate, it would deflagrate. if you had 20 grams, then it MIGHT detonate its shell, which consists of more FP. if it was HE in those targets, they'd blow a lot more apart than just a cardboard backing. not only that, but its not a snapping high pitched explosion, its a low pitched deep BOOM. which indicates low explosive....ever heard an M80 go off?
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