guitaoist Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I offer proof for the skeptics of astrology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I see no evidence presented here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 did u watch my videos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Most of the first one and bits of the second. Would you like to summarise your evidence? And then try some causal explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooeypoo Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 ! Moderator Note Moved to speculations. I think you should go over the definition of "scientific evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 why was this moved? u know i proved astrology in my videos. it has scientific foundations, as i mentioned in my first video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooeypoo Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Astrology is not mainstream science, and you have not proved it yet. When and if you do, and the scientific community accepts it as established science, ti can go back to the mainstream science forums. Your videos didn't prove much. Do you want to cooperate and lay out your evidence in the post so people can actually comment on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 In your first video, each sentence is more or less completely unrelated to the previous sentence. I have no idea what you are talking about, you change topics every 5 seconds. You didn't even give arguments, you just stated a bunch of random things. Unfortunately, that 10% of serial killers in a single study had similar birthdays is not going to convince anybody that you have proven astrology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 dude love ur energy, but what i referred 2 in the video comes from here: http://www.astrology...702_1/index.htm 1519 had pluto/capricorn, neptune/pisces, mars/leo, which will be the same in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Does it not occur to you that a journal set up for the purpose of proving astrology might be slightly biased in their review (assuming they have one) process? Where does your 1519 number come from? Their numbers seem much much smaller than that, so small in fact to be statistically useless. They have also not addressed anything that would counter the old adage that correlation does not mean causation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 dude love ur energy, but what i referred 2 in the video comes from here: http://www.astrology...702_1/index.htm 1519 had pluto/capricorn, neptune/pisces, mars/leo, which will be the same in 2012. Did you miss this part or just ignored it? Caveat: I am not claiming that the following paper is "proof" of astrology. It clearly is not. It is, however, a logical first step in the testing process. Hypothesis hunting (explained below) is a legitimate procedure for finding factors which may be tested further on new batches of data. Coincidence isn’t evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 When he says "I offer proof for the skeptics of astrology" he's not quite right, however the fact that people like him believe it is some sort of evidence for the skeptics' point of view. What he doesn't seem to have done at all is offer evidence supporting astrology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 ! Moderator Note Protip: using text-speak (e.g. u and ur), much like poor spelling in general, does nothing to boost one's credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 have you read the book cosmos and psyche by richard tarnas? he hasnt been refuted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Not proof, but still an awesome experiment: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I offer proof for the skeptics of astrology You really can't "prove" anything in science. What you can offer is evidence that supports your idea. Scientific evidence needs to be testable, it needs to be repeatable, and it needs to be able to support further predictions you can make if your idea is sound. This is what you're being asked to provide. So far, nothing you've offered can overcome the evidence that astrology is unsound and relies on generalizations and gullibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tres Juicy Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 why was this moved? u know i proved astrology in my videos. it has scientific foundations, as i mentioned in my first video. It seems that your idea of proof is somewhat different to ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 If you're so confident why have you not won this yet? http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) If you're so confident why have you not won this yet? http://www.randi.org...-challenge.html did u even watch my video i talked about randi. watch these vids i did on randi: Edited March 11, 2012 by guitaoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Your videos are pretty difficult to really watch due to the constant flipping backwards and forwards in what you're saying. A simple few lines of text would have sufficed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) i dont know why u dont see what im saying heres some more of my refutation on james randi Edited March 12, 2012 by guitaoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooeypoo Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Because you're not giving evidence, you're ranting, and not very well. Evidence is not just explanations. You need actual... EVIDENCE. The mechanism for astrology is quite known to be bunk -- from the fact that the "forces produced by planets" are hardly even affecting anything here on earth, to the fact that it was shown to be over-generalized enough to fail blind testing. Evidence is not ranty youtube videos. Do you have some REAL evidence? Here, stuff for you to read, about real science: Double-blinded experiment to prove astrology (fails, repeatedly): http://www.astrodivi...oa/ncgrberk.htm Astrology, is it scientific? A full explanation of what you would need to do to show us astrology is science. http://undsci.berkel...ology_checklist Also, if we do YouTube videos, you should watch this: And this: Enjoy actual science. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 omg come on this is so old news watch these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CYcp5wObs -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) What makes you think that THIS crop circle isn't a hoax like the others? Edited March 12, 2012 by ydoaPs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitaoist Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) u know tarnas book cosmos and psyche was awarded book of the year prize by the scientific and medical network in the uk. im posting my thoughts on skepic vs belief. the crop circle is reputable also man Edited March 12, 2012 by guitaoist -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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