newt gingrich

[guitaoist]

i cant believe newt has now dropped out everyone from where i live support him

[imatfaal]

Hmmm - Well even in the two states that Newt won he didn't manage a majority of republicans (let alone a majority of voters)

 

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/primaries

[CaptainPanic]

Personally, I regret that Santorum lost. I thought he was quite entertaining... In the same way that the way hurricane Katrina developed was quite interesting.

 

Anyway, on a more serious note, I agree with imatfaal that this is just the way the US's democracy works.

[iNow]

Anyway, on a more serious note, I agree with imatfaal that this is just the way the US's democracy works.

"Works" may be a poor choice of terms, here. "Functions" is perhaps less presumptuous?

[guitaoist]

newt wouldve ended obamas african communist policys

 

i already talked about this:

Edited May 4, 2012 by guitaoist

[questionposter]

Dude, what you are doing in this forum? You obviously don't care about science.

Besides, newt would have gotten the Republican party more humiliated just as Joe Biden does for Obama, and Capitalism needs socialism to keep it on a leash. Personally I don't logically see how Obama's policies are particularly communist, they are more progressive, and he even signed off on granting more gun rights.

Edited May 4, 2012 by questionposter

[guitaoist]

everyone in my town voted to allect newt gingrich

[Phi for All]

everyone in my town voted to allect newt gingrich

Great, he can be president of your town.

[hypervalent_iodine]

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Moderator Note

Since this isn't really a political discussion, more idle chitchat, I'm moving it to the Lounge.

guitaoist, questionposter and doG, I've removed your posts since they were completely irrelevant to...whatever this discussion it meant to be about. Newt Gringrich, I think.

Guitaoist, comments such as, 'I bet I read way more science than you do', are not really appropriate and are also a logical fallacy (And also, astorlogy is not a science). You can read it all you like, it doesn't mean that you're right or that you know what you're talking about.

[iNow]

everyone in my town voted to allect newt gingrich

Don't read often, do you?

[guitaoist]

Astorlogy is not a science. You can read it all you like, it doesn't mean that you're right or that you know what you're talking about.

 

actually astrology is a science as i have already shown though you all seem to hate me when i refer to my other thread

 

Don't read often, do you?

 

actually ive read newtons principia as well as a book called COSMOS and PSYCHE by RICHARD TARNAS who has a degree from HARVARD and teaches at the california institute of integral studies in san francisco

Edited May 4, 2012 by guitaoist

[iNow]

Oh, okay. You've read two books. Appreciate you clarifying. On an unrelated matter, it is funny that you think astrology is a science. Perhaps you mean the science of psychology and how people believe silly things?

[hypervalent_iodine]

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Moderator Note

This thread is not about astrology. Guitaoist, if you keep trying to pull it back to that, this thread will get closed.

[Phi for All]

Newt Gingrich is one of the worst Republicans I've ever seen. He is so far off-platform I can't believe he took two states.

 

He is the epitome of why the two party system does a crap job of representing such a large and diverse population as the US. I don't know any Republicans who he could hope to represent. He's not really conservative, he's not a very principled person, he's got some strange records on gun control and he would probably grow the federal government bigger than Bush did. Since he doesn't fit the conservative Republican patterns, he strikes me as someone who's in it only for the power it gives him.

[guitaoist]

Newt Gingrich is one of the worst Republicans I've ever seen. He is so far off-platform I can't believe he took two states.

 

He is the epitome of why the two party system does a crap job of representing such a large and diverse population as the US. I don't know any Republicans who he could hope to represent. He's not really conservative, he's not a very principled person, he's got some strange records on gun control and he would probably grow the federal government bigger than Bush did. Since he doesn't fit the conservative Republican patterns, he strikes me as someone who's in it only for the power it gives him.

 

newt wanted 2 end the libtard bias of obama who can honestly b called a socialist

[Phi for All]

newt wanted 2 end the libtard bias of obama who can honestly b called a socialist

That's what he may have said, but his voting record was always different. Newt's one of the most moderate "conservatives" we've ever seen in this country. And I could never forgive him for his support of that travesty of a prescription drug act Bush passed. Gingrich moves his lips like a Republican, but all that comes out is more big corporate steamrolling of the free market competition that his party is supposed to be all about.

 

guitaoist, I have to say, with all due respect, if you EVER expect to be taken seriously among educated, thoughtful people, you'd better respect your own opinion enough to ditch the textspeak and spell it out correctly. Your lazy-ass approach to communication is an affront to everyone here who cares enough to take the time to talk to you.

[questionposter]

newt wanted 2 end the libtard bias of obama who can honestly b called a socialist

 

Maybe he is socialist, so what? At a time like this the US may need more socialism to balance out the capitalism.

Edited May 4, 2012 by questionposter

[CaptainPanic]

Maybe he is socialist, so what? At a time like this the US may need more socialism to balance out the capitalism.

From a European: Americans don't have ANY socialist candidates. If Obama would participate in our elections, he would probably be among the right wing capitalists... not the left wing socialists. Firstly, it's ridiculous that people call Obama or Newt a socialist. Secondly, it's ridiculous that the word socialist is used as a kind of swear word, as if socialism is bad.

 

Note to Americans: most of your European allies over the last century were socialists... at least, more socialist than any of your presidents ever was.

 

Sorry if this derails this thread, but it didn't really have a clear topic to start with.

[Phi for All]

Secondly, it's ridiculous that the word socialist is used as a kind of swear word, as if socialism is bad.

You have no idea of the kind of spin money spent here to conflate the term "socialist" with "communist". You might have some idea of the kind of spin money spent here in the past to conflate "communist" with "red-eyed, baby-eating demon".

[mississippichem]

You have no idea of the kind of spin money spent here to conflate the term "socialist" with "communist". You might have some idea of the kind of spin money spent here in the past to conflate "communist" with "red-eyed, baby-eating demon".

 

Funny how all our major miltary alliances like NATO are with "socialists". So Americans in general may have a distaste for socialism but our foreign policy says different.

Edited May 4, 2012 by mississippichem

[Phi for All]

Funny how all our major miltary alliances like NATO are with "socialists". So Americans in general may have a distaste for socialism but our foreign policy says different.

I wish more people would realize this. Socialism practically requires that pooled resources are conserved and the general welfare (or at least a greater portion of it) takes precedence. Capitalism requires profit to take precedence, even if that profit comes at the expense of the general welfare, as in the case of our healthcare system, or our road maintenance system. Switching to something like Australia's system for healthcare would save us around half of what we currently pay. Switching to something like Germany's system for road maintenance would mean paying a fraction of what we pay now.

 

As long as we favor business over everything else, and allow our government leaders to be overly influenced by business leaders (or actually be both, like Romney), we'll always have these conflicts of interest, where making money subverts the intent behind various programs. Do we want to be healthy or do we want to make more money from healthcare? We can't really have both. Do we want to drive on glass-smooth roads that wear like iron or do we want to make more money for construction companies? We can't do both. Do we want fewer prisons and felons or do we want to make more money from the prison system? We can't have both, their purposes are at odds.

 

We need to find a better hybrid mix of capitalism and socialism if we want to achieve what most Americans want to achieve, which is basically stability, prosperity and security. We've allowed leaders like Gingrich to take us to where we are right now, and I'd say about 99% of us feel we're lacking in stability, prosperity and security.

[Janus]

everyone in my town voted to allect newt gingrich

 

Hey, you can allect him all you want if that's what you want to do. What are you planning to use to entice him?

[guitaoist]

Hey, you can allect him all you want if that's what you want to do. What are you planning to use to entice him?

 

what r u talking about

[iNow]

what r u talking about

He asked you to elaborate on what you said.

 

What will you be using to entice him now that the members of your town voted that's what you will do?

[Phi for All]

What are you planning to use to entice him?

Well, Newt feels assaulted by secular, atheistic elitism. He wants to explore a potentially passionate relationship with the evangelical community. I'd say it all depends on how good-looking the preacher's wife is in guitaoist's town.