Externet Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 Hi. By applying 0.1 Volt to electrodes in a solution of multiple compounds, as a murky river; would only one or a few elements be collected ? If the voltage is increased to 0.2 V, would additional others join and get deposited ? Stepping up the voltage, would more and more elements attach to the electrodes ? Is that the way it works ? The metals or compounds being in minute nanoparticle concentrations, diluted or in suspension as in a river. Making the river to flow trough an electrolytic pipe internals, would such metals stick to electrodes placed inside the pipe ? Is that the way the electrochemical series would work in electrolysis, cumulatively selecting different metals depending of the voltage ? Am sorry about the poor terminology or attempt to express the question. In other words, would different voltages deposit different elements onto the electrodes ?
elementcollector1 Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I think the electropositivity / electronegativity of the ions in question would come into play. The least electropositive element would be electrolyzed at the least voltage / current. I think...
Enthalpy Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 I expect - but wait for other opinions - that 0.1V is too low for any effect. There are thresholds, higher that 0.1V, just because an electrode's surface isn't a clean metal, and differs from water as well. You may use a low voltage when both electrodes are the same metal dissolved in the electrolyte, but even then, 0.1V is little. If the voltage exceeds the minimum necessary for electrolysis to happen, I expect a small current density to first deposit fully the easiest metal, limiting the voltage to what this metal needs, and then the voltage to increase to deposit the second easiest metal - which may never happen in a river that replenishes the easiest metal. When all metals easier to separate than hydrogen are gone, you get hydrogen. Which isn't a strict limit experimentally. The same should happen at the other electrode with the anions, complicating the voltage behaviour. With a decent current density, the process is less selective and you get a cation and anion soup.
Externet Posted May 9, 2012 Author Posted May 9, 2012 I just wanted a guess on what deposits to expect attached to the electrodes by electrolysis of a murky river carrying all sorts of minerals, using perhaps stainless steel anode and cathode plates; stepping trough different very regulated fixed voltages. And if -the electrochemical series list -or the galvanic series list, as in ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_series -or the standard electrode potential list as in ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_electrode_potential_%28data_page%29 applies in some form for the guess. Or if am way off from expressing properly what am asking.
John Cuthber Posted May 9, 2012 Posted May 9, 2012 "By applying 0.1 Volt to electrodes in a solution of multiple compounds, as a murky river; would only one or a few elements be collected ? If the voltage is increased to 0.2 V, would additional others join and get deposited ?" The simple answer is yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltammetry but it's quite complicated.
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