Pros and cons of having pre-marital sex?

[Mr Rayon]

hey guys,

 

I'm currently doing first year of university and I was just wondering what the pros and cons are of having pre-marital sex?

 

now I don't usually think about these things too much and I'm not one of those sex addicts you see on television documentaries or anything but recently I have become sexually aroused more often and thinking about it more than usual for some reason. This has got me going...

 

What are some strong reasons for two people to remain virgins before marriage?

And overall, do these sorts of marriages last longer than marriages between non-virgin participants who want to get married?

I always thought I would be a virgin until after I get married but there are so many opportunities when you're young and I think rejecting these opportunites may be something that I could possibly regret later on.

Should I try to get as much sex as possible while I'm still young or wait another 6-7 years until I get married?

 

I have heard of people describing one's virginity as the ultimate gift that you can give to your spouse and the ultimate gift that they can give to you. So having premarital sex is like opening your Christmas present too early. You want to wait so you can enjoy Christmas day. If you lose your viginity before Christmas day, then you will have a miserable Christmas. Am I right?

 

Also, for the woman, is it true that sex is very painful for them (i.e. when the hymen is broken for the first time)? I have heard lots of blood can come out and I'm scared. What is the best thing to do if lots of blood keeps coming out?

Can a woman die from having pre-marital sex?

And how can you tell if a guy is a virgin?

 

Also, to everyone on SFN, when did you guys lose your virginities and what are your experiences with sex? How does it feel?

What are the pros and cons? Do the pros outweigh the cons? Or not?

 

I am a youth seeking guidance. What sort of relationship with the opposite sex should I seek? Should it be a committed relationship? What would you recommend if I am seeking to be emotionally/physically intimate with the opposite sex?

 

Also, of particular relevance:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/sc_county_gop_if_youve_had_pre-marital_sex_you_can.php

[immortal]

This is one of the reasons why I think that sex education should be taught in schools, even though many of our behaviours are hard-wired and the changes are quite natural and requires no extra information it is always good to know about it in detail.

 

 

According to Kamasutra of Vatsyayana (Kama means all kinds of pleasure not only sex) both a man and a woman should have these following skills to be considered revered and he says by developing these skills in women too, they can live on their own without any man's support. The orthodox religious view treats sex in a negative way but some scholars who have studied the scriptures and who have wisdom take it positively and say that it is important and that it should be performed in a way so that it doesn't destabilize the society in any way and differentiate the kinds of women that one should resort for only carnal desire and for some special puropse and those who are prohibited from resorting to.

 

 

 

Kama Sutra of Vatsyayana

 

1. Singing.

 

2. Playing on musical instruments.

 

3. Dancing.

 

4. Union of dancing, singing, and playing instrumental music.

 

5. Writing and drawing.

 

6. Tattooing.

 

7. Arraying and adorning an idol with rice and flowers.

 

8. Spreading and arraying beds or couches of flowers, or flowers upon the ground.

 

9. Colouring the teeth, garments, hair, nails, and bodies, i.e., staining, dyeing, colouring and painting the same.

 

10. Fixing stained glass into a floor.

 

11. The art of making beds, and spreading out carpets and cushions for reclining.

 

12. Playing on musical glasses filled with water.

 

13. Storing and accumulating water in aqueducts, cisterns and reservoirs.

 

14. Picture making, trimming and decorating.

 

15. Stringing of rosaries, necklaces, garlands and wreaths.

 

16. Binding of turbans and chaplets, and making crests and top-knots of flowers.

 

17. Scenic representations. Stage playing.

 

18. Art of making ear ornaments.

 

19. Art of preparing perfumes and odours.

 

20. Proper disposition of jewels and decorations, and adornment in dress.

 

21. Magic or sorcery.

 

22. Quickness of hand or manual skill.

 

23. Culinary art, i.e., cooking and cookery.

 

24. Making lemonades, sherbets, acidulated drinks, and spirituous extracts with proper flavour and colour.

 

25. Tailor's work and sewing.

 

26. Making parrots, flowers, tufts, tassels, bunches, bosses, knobs, &c., out of yarn or thread.

 

27. Solution of riddles, enigmas, covert speeches, verbal puzzles and enigmatical questions.

 

28. A game, which consisted in repeating verses, and as one person finished, another person had to commence at once, repeating another verse, beginning with the same letter with which the last speaker's verse ended, whoever failed to repeat was considered to have lost, and to be subject to pay a forfeit or stake of some kind.

 

29. The art of mimicry or imitation.

 

30. Reading, including chanting and intoning.

 

31. Study of sentences difficult to pronounce. It is played as a game chiefly by women and children, and consists of a difficult sentence being given, and when repeated quickly, the words are often transposed or badly pronounced.

 

32. Practice with sword, single stick, quarter staff, and bow and arrow.

 

33. Drawing inferences, reasoning or inferring.

 

34. Carpentry, or the work of a carpenter.

 

35. Architecture, or the art of building.

 

36. Knowledge about gold and silver coins, and jewels and gems.

 

37. Chemistry and mineralogy.

 

38. Colouring jewels, gems and beads.

 

39. Knowledge of mines and quarries.

 

40. Gardening; knowledge of treating the diseases of trees and plants, of nourishing them, and determining their ages.

 

41. Art of cock fighting, quail fighting and ram fighting.

 

42. Art of teaching parrots and starlings to speak.

 

43. Art of applying perfumed ointments to the body, and of dressing the hair with unguents and perfumes and braiding it.

 

44. The art of understanding writing in cypher, and the writing of words in a peculiar way.

 

45. The art of speaking by changing the forms of words. It is of various kinds. Some speak by changing the beginning and end of words, others by adding unnecessary letters between every syllable of a word, and so on.

 

46. Knowledge of language and of the vernacular dialects.

 

47. Art of making flower carriages.

 

48. Art of framing mystical diagrams, of addressing spells and charms, and binding armlets.

 

49. Mental exercises, such as completing stanzas or verses on receiving a part of them; or supplying one, two or three lines when the remaining lines are given indiscriminately from different verses, so as to make the whole an entire verse with regard to its meaning; or arranging the words of a verse written irregularly by separating the vowels from the consonants, or leaving them out altogether; or putting into verse or prose sentences represented by signs or symbols. There are many other such exercises.

 

50. Composing poems.

 

51. Knowledge of dictionaries and vocabularies.

 

52. Knowledge of ways of changing and disguising the appearance of persons.

 

53. Knowledge of the art of changing the appearance of things, such as making cotton to appear as silk, coarse and common things to appear as fine and good.

 

54. Various ways of gambling.

 

55. Art of obtaining possession of the property of others by means of muntras or incantations.

 

56. Skill in youthful sports.

 

57. Knowledge of the rules of society, and of how to pay respects and compliments to others.

 

58. Knowledge of the art of war, of arms, of armies, &c.

 

59. Knowledge of gymnastics.

 

60. Art of knowing the character of a man from his features.

 

61. Knowledge of scanning or constructing verses.

 

62. Arithmetical recreations.

 

63. Making artificial flowers.

 

64. Making figures and images in clay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Polednice]

I do not think there is anything special or wonderful about virginity, and see no valid reasons whatsoever for two people to wait until marriage to have sex. That said, I do not think that sex is an act to be treated whimsically, and so a serious degree of self-reflection is necessary before entering into it with anyone.

[Moontanman]

If you are of legal age and willing to accept the responsibility of a relationship and understand about protection, pregnancy prevention and take the necessary precautions, once you can handle the cons the pros will be all you see.... I think it should never be taken lightly, my rule was never have sex with someone you didn't have a relationship with, picking up strangers is both physically dangerous and emotionally untenable... at least to me...

[ewmon]

Reasons to maintain virginity:

• No sexually transmitted diseases (Old joke: What do you give a woman who has everything? Penicillin.)
  
• Men will never wonder if they have a child somewhere. (My brother has wondered for 40 years.)
  
• Women will never wonder who the father is. (Very embarrassing to write "Unknown" on the birth certificate -- or if she's a slut, maybe it's a badge of honor.)
  
• Marriage means sharing, which is cute/romantic, but very few women want to share the expense of child support payments for another woman's brat. ("No kids, we can't go to Disneyworld because we had other expenses to pay.")
  
• No emotional attachments outside the marriage (once you get married).
  
• Nothing to compare your partner to. No second-guessing your choice of marriage/sex partner.
  

Virgin marriages:

• I don't know if they last longer.
  

As much sex as possible:

• Remember trying to eat all that Halloween candy in one night? You get sick of it after a while.
  
• If you're a nice guy (and I think you are), it'll probably hurt you emotionally.
  
• You'd need to learn to treat women as sex objects, and you'll likely end up with women who treat men as sex objects.
  

The ultimate marriage gift (pick one):

• Virginity
  
• A sexually-transmitted disease
  
• A stepchild/children/child support payments
  
• Other
  

Pain from a popped cherry:

• Many/most women are so physically active now that there's probably not much damage/pain.
  

Lots of blood:

• Never. We're talking about a small bandaid kind of bleeding, not her menstrual flow.
  

Dying from sex:

• Never. She's more likely to die rofl about such an idea.
  

How to spot male virgins:

• Nervous, confused, fumbling around, don't know what they're doing, etc. But another virgin might find this reassuring.
  

Personal accounts:

• ?
  

Seeking guidance:

• The questions you ask here show that you're fairly naive/innocent, which isn't a bad thing in itself, but it means to me that you'll probably encounter some disaster by trying to get laid, especially trying to get laid as much as possible.
  
• Losing one's virginity reminds me of getting married. I've known several people who married for the first time late in life (40+), and all of them were so happily married that they never had regrets (ie, they never said anything like, "I should have married earlier in life").
  
• Ignore anyone who says that if you haven't kissed/fooled around/gotten laid/etc by now, that you're a loser and/or you'll never get anything this late in life. You're living your life, not theirs.
  
• Looking for sex with raging youthful hormones is like food shopping when you're starving to death.
  
• A wise man once told me: When the marriage is healthy, sex is only 10% of the reason, but when a marriage is in trouble, not having sex is 90% of the problem.
  

[jeskill]

Also, for the woman, is it true that sex is very painful for them (i.e. when the hymen is broken for the first time)? I have heard lots of blood can come out and I'm scared. What is the best thing to do if lots of blood keeps coming out?

 

I know many women who did not have a hymen when they first had sex. Dancing, horseback riding, gymnastics can all stretch the hymen into non-existence before sex. If you are gentle and if the woman is relaxed and willing, I doubt there'd be much blood, if any.

 

Not really an official source, but I've seen this in other places too: http://www.islamicga.../mythhymen.html

While an intact hymen that bleeds when broken on a bride's wedding night has traditionally been regarded as proof of her virginity, this is a myth which has been disproven many times over in the twentieth century as the medical establishment has made it clear that:

 

1. Some girls are born without a hymen;

 

2. The hymen may tear naturally when a girl plays sports or engages in any physical activity;

 

3. The hymen is not always smooth but tends to be perforated and that the perforations may get bigger and cause the hymen to break once a girl menstruates;

 

4. The hymen can be broken by the use of tampons;

 

5. The hymen may be very small or very elastic so that no breakage occurs at all (some women even become pregnant while their hymens are still intact);

 

6. A hymen may not bleed when broken.

 

 

Can a woman die from having pre-marital sex?

The probability of a woman dying from pre-marital sex is the same as her dying from marital sex.

And how can you tell if a guy is a virgin?

You ask him.

I am a youth seeking guidance. What sort of relationship with the opposite sex should I seek? Should it be a committed relationship? What would you recommend if I am seeking to be emotionally/physically intimate with the opposite sex?

 

You should seek a relationship that is based on mutual respect and friendship. If it's an amorous relationship you seek, then there should also be mutual attraction. It is my personal opinion that sex within a committed relationship is way better, so I would answer yes to that question. If you seek to be emotionally and physically intimate, my suggestion is to be honest and caring to your partner, take precautions to be safe.

Edited May 25, 2012 by jeskill

[imatfaal]

hey guys,

 

I'm currently doing first year of university and I was just wondering what the pros and cons are of having pre-marital sex?

Congrats on Uni place; I loved it there and hope you do too! What are you studying?

 

now I don't usually think about these things too much and I'm not one of those sex addicts you see on television documentaries or anything but recently I have become sexually aroused more often and thinking about it more than usual for some reason. This has got me going...

never ever ever base your decisions on the mad weirdoes that you get on day time tv. Talk to friends, relatives, priests/rabbis/imans (if you insist) and look at decent books/websites etc

 

 

What are some strong reasons for two people to remain virgins before marriage?

And overall, do these sorts of marriages last longer than marriages between non-virgin participants who want to get married?

I always thought I would be a virgin until after I get married but there are so many opportunities when you're young and I think rejecting these opportunites may be something that I could possibly regret later on.

Should I try to get as much sex as possible while I'm still young or wait another 6-7 years until I get married?

Personally I would say that the idea of a gift to one's spouse is an unwanted and unneeded throw-back to a viciously patriarchal and controlling society. There is something special about the first time - but it is something that is yours; yours to treasure or yours to give. Do not let the old farts or young bloods bully or pressurize you in either direction. Depending on personal circumstances 17 might be too late and 25 too early - and yes, I realise those figures are reversed; but that's the whole point! It is your decision and the only criteria that are important are completely personal.

 

I have heard of people describing one's virginity as the ultimate gift that you can give to your spouse and the ultimate gift that they can give to you. So having premarital sex is like opening your Christmas present too early. You want to wait so you can enjoy Christmas day. If you lose your viginity before Christmas day, then you will have a miserable Christmas. Am I right?

NO.

 

Also, for the woman, is it true that sex is very painful for them (i.e. when the hymen is broken for the first time)? I have heard lots of blood can come out and I'm scared. What is the best thing to do if lots of blood keeps coming out?

CALL A DOCTOR. It's very unlikely - and if it does happen then you need to react in exactly the same way as you would for any emergency - its 999 where I am typing, maybe 911 where you are. Doctors will not be judgemental - or at least shouldn't be and are very unlikely to be - if someone is ill or injured you go to the experts. Never be afraid of calling a doctor for sexual woes and problems - I promise you they see them all the time and really are not making judgments about your morals behind your back.

 

Can a woman die from having pre-marital sex?

Within normal error parameters - NO. (unless you are doing it very very wrong)

 

And how can you tell if a guy is a virgin?

Physiologically - NO. In practice - YES/PERHAPS

 

Also, to everyone on SFN, when did you guys lose your virginities and what are your experiences with sex? How does it feel?

What are the pros and cons? Do the pros outweigh the cons? Or not?

A bit TOO personal perhaps. I was not a virgin when I went to medical school at 18. It really is the most fun you can have - and the more relaxed and accustomed to the idea and practice the better it gets. It can be awful as well - the highs are spectacular, but when things don't click it's worse than a ten-mile run as a pantomime horse. Most men will experience moments of complete existential dread when they realise that something is amiss - and that can be a terrible feedback loop. But on the whole - it is wonderful; there are no words to truly describe the oneness, the union, the sheer goodness between two people having sex.

 

I am a youth seeking guidance. What sort of relationship with the opposite sex should I seek? Should it be a committed relationship? What would you recommend if I am seeking to be emotionally/physically intimate with the opposite sex?

If you in yourself dont feel strongly either way then I would recommend finding a nice partner for a fairly long term relationship (as opposed to a one-night stand) and seeing where that leads you. In itself a long-term partnership is magnificent and fulfilling whether it is consummated with sex or not - and let the relationship find it's own end; if sex is a natural progression then don't hold back, if abstinence is more natural then do not force the issue.

 

Also, of particular relevance:

http://tpmmuckraker....sex_you_can.php

 

haven't read link - but bit I can see of url seems unhelpful

[hypervalent_iodine]

I should preface this by saying that I myself am still fairly young (23) and my counsel might not offer the same reach as others who have posted here. Regardless, I thought I might give my own opinions as (I think) the only female in the thread so far.

 

What are some strong reasons for two people to remain virgins before marriage?

 

This seems to me to be more of a religious / cultural artifact when you consider that marriage does not have as much importance placed on it as it had in the past. The underpinning idea of waiting until marriage to have sex stems from the unique symbolic weight that we place the concept of sex itself as well as the social paranoia that surrounds it.

 

The tradition itself comes from a time where marriage was a.) significantly more permanent than it is now and where b.) being unmarried was looked down upon after you reached a certain age (particularly for females). Objectively, the point behind remaining abstinent until you marry appears to be to wait and share the experience with the person you are to spend the rest of you life with (however long that really is). This is, to me, only a small step sideways to the further simplified view of waiting until it seems right, marriage or no marriage.

 

Another somewhat related argument that I encountered while doing a little bit of research comes from the bias inherent within the Judeo-Christian stance on sexual relations, which is that reproductive sex is considered 'natural' and all other forms of sexual expression are discarded as anathema. This bias is quite representative in the practice of remaining a virgin until marriage, since under such a belief system one would typically not start a family until after marriage. I think, however, that 'no sex before marriage' is not something that originated with the Judeo-Christians, though the same bias may very well be present in other religious groups where this has been practiced (you would have to look it up).

 

And overall, do these sorts of marriages last longer than marriages between non-virgin participants who want to get married?

 

I'm unsure, but I suspect it would be a complicated comparison. As a very broad assumption, I would think that couples who stay true to remaining virgins until marriage are of a more traditional and conservative upbringing, where things such as divorce are not necessarily as prevalent because of localised pressure from their community. That is, as I say, a rather large assumption on my part and I have no idea if it is correct.

 

 

I always thought I would be a virgin until after I get married but there are so many opportunities when you're young and I think rejecting these opportunites may be something that I could possibly regret later on.

Should I try to get as much sex as possible while I'm still young or wait another 6-7 years until I get married?

 

The answer to your second question is probably not. You should do what feels right within reason - and that is something that is entirely your perogative (and your partner's, of course) - but I think that taking a bedroom tour of Australia because you feel you have to gain experience is not the right way to treat it. This is just my personal opinion, though. For some people, doing that is okay. Not everyone treats sex in the same manner; some people will use it as little more than a tool for pleasure whereas others hold more of a commitment value to it. I dare say that you strike me as more conforming of the latter than of the former.

 

I have heard of people describing one's virginity as the ultimate gift that you can give to your spouse and the ultimate gift that they can give to you. So having premarital sex is like opening your Christmas present too early. You want to wait so you can enjoy Christmas day. If you lose your viginity before Christmas day, then you will have a miserable Christmas. Am I right?

 

I disagree with this. I think that sharing yourself so intimately would be just as much of a gift to another person regardless of whether it's your first sexual encounter or not, but that it depends entirely upon how you yourself value the gift (where the value itself is described as a sign of commitment and affection).

 

Also, for the woman, is it true that sex is very painful for them (i.e. when the hymen is broken for the first time)?

 

I think that depends a lot on the person. In general, it takes a small bit of getting used to and a partner who is conscientious enough to listen and not force things along.

 

I have heard lots of blood can come out and I'm scared. What is the best thing to do if lots of blood keeps coming out?

 

This shouldn't be a problem, though I am hesitant in giving any sort of medical advice. As imatfaal suggested, you may want to go see a GP (if you don't have a regular one, your uni might have a bulk bill medical centre) and talk to them about your concerns.

 

Can a woman die from having pre-marital sex?

 

That would take some serious doing. That being said, I did once have a male friend who managed to break his female companion's hip during sex. I'm not entirely sure how and I was too afraid to ask.

 

And how can you tell if a guy is a virgin?

 

In my experience, they tell you.

 

I am a youth seeking guidance. What sort of relationship with the opposite sex should I seek? Should it be a committed relationship? What would you recommend if I am seeking to be emotionally/physically intimate with the opposite sex?

 

Also, of particular relevance:

http://tpmmuckraker....sex_you_can.php

 

 

I don't think I can answer this particular bit any more than others already have.

[iNow]

What the hell does marriage have to do with sex?

[Xittenn]

My biggest concern with sex has always been STI's. Oddly enough, given my level of concern, I've only used protection maybe once and almost all of my companions have been complete strangers. I obviously have reason to be concerned, but this really goes for anyone and everyone.

 

It has been mentioned to evaluate and be prepared, as well as consciously aware, but little emphasis has been placed on exactly what that means. Most men will say "well I have little chance of getting . . . " which isn't really the case. Men have a tendency to masturbate which can break the skin and HIV is easily transmittable at opportune times. There is also HPV which can get pretty ugly. How do you feel about blood tests? Sleeping around with a conscious means a lot of blood samples will be taken. I am personally very lucky to be clean still at this time, especially given who my partners were, and these are things you are really going to want to consider.

 

Condoms break, all the time, are you ready to have children. There are girls who will lie to you about the state of their birth control. Often young women really want to be mothers and they can go to extents to get what they want.

 

Honestly wait, it is not worth the hassle. Find someone you really like and take your time there is no rush! Maybe first discover what it means to be a friend of a women first and then consider what it would mean to be more. All too often young men are entirely too preoccupied with the end result, and they have never even made friends . . .

[Joatmon]

Honestly wait, it is not worth the hassle. Find someone you really like and take your time there is no rush! Maybe first discover what it means to be a friend of a women first and then consider what it would mean to be more. All too often young men are entirely too preoccupied with the end result, and they have never even made friends . . .

It might be considered unfair, but in my late teens (the 1950's) the saying was "Boys will try, so girls deny". The funny thing is that it worked very well. You showed a girl you were sexually attracted to her by kissing and fondling. At first you expected a simple goodnight kiss and your hand quickly removed - but she knew you found her sexually attractive. As time went on and the relationship developed, if she was attracted to you she would allow a greater degree of this sort of contact. All the fondling activity would be focussed on her breasts, neck and places like the small of her back - never "below the waist", although from time to time you might make a half hearted try which would be immediately rebuffed. Part of why it worked was the expected demand that you stop - which was immediately obeyed. This ritual ensured that when the day came that the girl decided she was "willing to go all the way" you both had had time to know each other very well. For what it is worth, when my day came I took it as a privilege and a mark of her love for me - got engaged and married her a year or so later.

So I feel that having enough time to know each other well - which gives time in which to determine how comfortable you are in each others company and judge your compatibility in the everyday things of life is important. If you then go on to finding out how compatible your sexual needs are you will be in a good position to contemplate marriage.

Edited May 25, 2012 by Joatmon

[ewmon]

I did once have a male friend who managed to break his female companion's hip during sex. I'm not entirely sure how and I was too afraid to ask.

Maybe the rope holding the basket broke. But seriously, OMG! Maybe she fell off the bed ... or the balcony.

 

In an important way, virginity is not what you're giving someone, it's a sound precaution about what you're not giving someone. It must really suck to have to give up the fact that, for example, you have genital herpes, which means not even heavy petting during an outbreak (or even kissing if it has infected your mouth ) and that a woman's babies can become infected. And that's before marriage and even before things get serious. Not something you'd want to put in your online dating service description.

[doG]

Also, to everyone on SFN, when did you guys lose your virginities and what are your experiences with sex? How does it feel?

At puberty, around 38 years ago. It feels FANTASTIC!!!

[Moontanman]

At puberty, around 38 years ago. It feels FANTASTIC!!!

 

 

You doG you!

[jeskill]

I should preface this by saying that I myself am still fairly young (23) and my counsel might not offer the same reach as others who have posted here. Regardless, I thought I might give my own opinions as (I think) the only female in the thread so far.

 

Not the only female!

[mississippichem]

What the hell does marriage have to do with sex?

 

Once you get married you don't have it anymore?

[iNow]

Ding!!

[Joatmon]

Once you get married you don't have it anymore?

 

Glad nobody told my wife

 

I would like to think my wife is equally glad nobody told me!!

 

 

 

Edited May 26, 2012 by Joatmon

[doG]

Glad nobody told my wife

 

I would like to think my wife is equally glad nobody told me!!

Are you saying that your wife and you are still having pre-marital sex?

[Moontanman]

Are you saying that your wife and you are still having pre-marital sex?

 

 

Damn right! role playing is fun fun fun...

[Joatmon]

..

Are you saying that your wife and you are still having pre-marital sex?

 

 

I think I had better drop out of this thread after this post! There is nothing I've posted that my grown up children don't know and I don't think any of the people I know will read this - my wife isn't interested in computers or science but she is ,of course, free to wander by and look over my shoulder any time she likes.

I've got a feeling that if she does she might come after me with a big knife with the aim of "doing a Bobbitt".

 

Let's get scientific!

By definition my wife and I gave up pre-marital sex the day we got married.

#9 posed a question which didn't mention "pre-marital".

#16 answered #9.

My comment in #18 therefore is in answer to #9 (no mention of pre-marital)

 

I think you must be asking a new question because you and, probably Moontanman, are mixing up pre-marital and extramarital.

In answer to that new question we have a problem on a science forum. We can't use a statement as absolutely true if it relies on faith alone!

 

This, therefore, is the only truthful answer I can give - I know that I have been completely faithful to my wife throughout our marriage and I have complete faith in believing that she has been completely faithful to me!

Hey - for goodness sake my love put that damn knife away - you are making me feel nervous - AAAhhhhhh............

Edited May 27, 2012 by Joatmon

[doG]

...- you are making me feel nervous - ....

Don't be. I was just making use of an opportunity to poke some fun at you. No ill intent intended....

[hypervalent_iodine]

Don't be. I was just making use of an opportunity to poke some fun at you. No ill intent intended....

 

I suspect he was talking about his knife-wielding wife.

 

If we never hear from Joatmon again, we'll know why.

[Joatmon]

I suspect he was talking about his knife-wielding wife.

 

If we never hear from Joatmon again, we'll know why.

It's quite nice here in hospital - but I seem to have lost interest in the pretty nurses!

I really think this has to be my last word

 

 

 

[Moontanman]

..

 

 

I think I had better drop out of this thread after this post! There is nothing I've posted that my grown up children don't know and I don't think any of the people I know will read this - my wife isn't interested in computers or science but she is ,of course, free to wander by and look over my shoulder any time she likes.

I've got a feeling that if she does she might come after me with a big knife with the aim of "doing a Bobbitt".

 

Let's get scientific!

By definition my wife and I gave up pre-marital sex the day we got married.

#9 posed a question which didn't mention "pre-marital".

#16 answered #9.

My comment in #18 therefore is in answer to #9 (no mention of pre-marital)

 

I think you must be asking a new question because you and, probably Moontanman, are mixing up pre-marital and extramarital.

In answer to that new question we have a problem on a science forum. We can't use a statement as absolutely true if it relies on faith alone!

 

This, therefore, is the only truthful answer I can give - I know that I have been completely faithful to my wife throughout our marriage and I have complete faith in believing that she has been completely faithful to me!

Hey - for goodness sake my love put that damn knife away - you are making me feel nervous - AAAhhhhhh............

 

 

Nope, no extra-marital sex was done or implied... 36 years now....