Polednice Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 I'm wondering what you all think about the current state of the neuroscience of creativity. Personally, as someone chiefly interested in phonological neuroscience and how it relates to poetry through language and music through sound, this field holds the greatest possible intrigue for me. At the same, I think the level of science reporting, and even the assumptions made first-hand in research articles, is below even the average of other science journalism, which we all know is low. My main gripe is that I think researchers and science writers alike are implicitly pandering to a self-help culture by jumping on evidence such as blue computer screens or alcohol drinking as increasing our ability to do word-puzzles, and suggesting that this demonstrates sitting in a blue room can foster creativity. This is such a giant non-sequitur, and I think it's disgraceful. It's wonderful that the field is so popular in best-selling science books at the moment, but it's disheartening that it's popular because it's filled with tempting lies.
HGrimston Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I haven't looked at a great deal of research concerning the neuroscience of creativity.. but I do know that creativity is difficult to operationally define. Our brains can change and manipulate information to a degree, which is apparent from studies on problem solving, and the type of information being manipulated changes what regions and systems of the brain are involved. In any case, I would conclude that it is a fascinating line of research, and there is plenty of room for growth.
Nathan Flinn Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Just what kind of junk are you reading anyway? Before making straw man attacks on one of the fastest growing and most multidisciplinary fields in science, I suggest you do a wiser search of literature. There is a difference between "studies" and well designed experiments and observations in neuroscience. Oh, BTW, the booze thing might be true
Manfromzurich Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 A person can get creative, when he has a lot of problems and he wants to solve his problems.
SarK0Y Posted September 9, 2012 Posted September 9, 2012 I'm wondering what you all think about the current state of the neuroscience of creativity. Personally, as someone chiefly interested in phonological neuroscience and how it relates to poetry through language and music through sound, this field holds the greatest possible intrigue for me. At the same, I think the level of science reporting, and even the assumptions made first-hand in research articles, is below even the average of other science journalism, which we all know is low. My main gripe is that I think researchers and science writers alike are implicitly pandering to a self-help culture by jumping on evidence such as blue computer screens or alcohol drinking as increasing our ability to do word-puzzles, and suggesting that this demonstrates sitting in a blue room can foster creativity. This is such a giant non-sequitur, and I think it's disgraceful. It's wonderful that the field is so popular in best-selling science books at the moment, but it's disheartening that it's popular because it's filled with tempting lies. mostly scientific teams no've had balls to provide really valuable R&Ds in this field: mathematical modeling been very helpful instrument, but it cannot substitute Practice + yes, populism has become a damned curse not only in the Neuroscience, but in the entire Science as well.
tkadm30 Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 I believe the neuroscience of creativity is best known as synaptic plasticity.
tkadm30 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 It's not. Those are distinct topics. Well, I found at least one research paper to support my claim.
StringJunky Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Well, I found at least one research paper to support my claim. So, you reference a paper presented by someone in IT?
iNow Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 "Best known" and "found ONE research paper." Perhaps you see the flaw in your argument?
tkadm30 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) "Best known" and "found ONE research paper." Perhaps you see the flaw in your argument? Actually, a search on google scholar produced 21100 results. Furthermore, the gene Neuregulin 1 (NRG1) appears implicated in the neuroscience of creativity and psychosis: There's supporting evidences that this gene polymorphism is connected to prefrontal synaptic plasticity and schizophrenia. Edited January 28, 2017 by tkadm30
iNow Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Your search results do not support your claim. The neuroscience of creativity overlaps with the study of synaptic plasticity, but your conflation of them is why you're mistaken. They are not the same thing and the neuroscience of creativity is NOT best known as synaptic plasticity. Stop talking bollocks. 1
Phi for All Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Actually, a search on google scholar produced 21100 results. Observation: This statement seems like an emotional response masquerading as reason. Learning requires you to be wrong a lot, so you can... well, learn from your mistakes. But if you won't acknowledge when you're wrong....
tkadm30 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Your search results do not support your claim. The neuroscience of creativity overlaps with the study of synaptic plasticity, but your conflation of them is why you're mistaken. They are not the same thing and the neuroscience of creativity is NOT best known as synaptic plasticity. Stop talking bollocks. OK. Let's just assume that synaptic plasticity is implicated in the neuroscience of creativity. And in case you missed it, Neuregulin 1 is a gene related to creativity AND synaptic plasticity.
iNow Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 None of that changes anything about my core point. Where are you struggling to understand me? I want to help you comprehend what strikes me as an exceedingly simple point, but it's unclear to me where I've lost you.
tkadm30 Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 iNow, I do agree with you. However, please understand that the neuroscience of creativity is complex and that synaptic plasticity is probably correlated. You should as a minimum take a minute to consider this fully.
iNow Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Just so we're clear, I largely agree with this: ...the neuroscience of creativity is complex and ... synaptic plasticity is probably correlated.But was quite obviously addressing this in my previous posts, which is remedially and self-evidently different:...the neuroscience of creativity is best known as synaptic plasticity.Stop trying to move the goalposts. You were wrong and got called out for it. Move on now.
DrmDoc Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 iNow, I do agree with you. However, please understand that the neuroscience of creativity is complex and that synaptic plasticity is probably correlated. You should as a minimum take a minute to consider this fully. You seem to be equating creativity solely with synaptic plasticity, which isn't true. Creativity is a product of overall brain function and involves a confluence of both micro and macro elements. Rather than neuregulin 1, synaptic plasticity is most dependent on postsynaptic calcium release; however, neuregulin 1 interaction with ErbB4 is implicated in schizophrenia when its inhibitory effects are disrupted.
StringJunky Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 Synaptic plasticity would be associated with learning but not creativity per se. As you practice something, new synapses are created which then 'hardwires' you to do that action automatically without having to think consciously about each step in performing that action.
tkadm30 Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 Another poorly understood regulator of creativity is dopamine neurotransmission. Dopamine and neuregulin-1 are promoters of gamma oscillations in the hippocampus, a key organ in the regulation of creativity and synaptic plasticity.
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