Asprin is an aphrodisiac! Really!!!

[raid517]

OK I'm just going to put this out there and see what you guys think. It may be that my physiology is somehow unique and that this is why my body responds this way, so I can't gurantee repeatability in all cases.

 

Anyway, I've always puzzled on how or where to broach this topic, but I admit that since being a young man I have occasionally (although quite frequently) used aspirin as an aphrodisiac. (And no I don't mean by giving it to my wife!) Through a chance discovery I found that taking a 75 milligram dose of aspirin several hours before sex massively increased the intensity of one's orgasm. To be clear it has a slightly differer impact on me than what traditional aphrodisiacs are envisioned to do, in that it does little or nothing to increase the pleasure or sensual nature of the overall experience. Rather it is just the 'end point' itself that is significantly enhanced.

 

I have never really mentioned this to anyone before, as I rather feared that it might be dismissed as being ridiculous (and no doubt some people will say this here), but since there is little harm in doing so, I suggest you try it before dismissing it out of hand. Due to not wishing to discuss the matter in the past, I can't say if a similar effect might be observed in female orgasm, but I would be very interested in the results if anyone tried.

 

Also there is a small proviso that the effect tends to wear off after a few days use, so that you might only be able to use it for two or 3 days, then take maybe a week off and then use it for 2 or 3 days again.

 

Moreover larger doses of aspirin appear to have no effect, so increasing the dose does not improve the experience.

 

I am genuinely interested if anyone tries this what their experiences and impressions are. Maybe I'm just a freak, but the difference for me is simply too profound to be dismissed as something imagined, or just some kind of placebo effect.

[Moontanman]

I've heard that aspirin can be used as birth control....

[zapatos]

I've heard that aspirin can be used as birth control....

How would that work?

[iNow]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marge-baker/war-on-women_b_1285542.html

 

In a stunning statement, major Santorum supporter billionaire Foster Friess put it even more bluntly on MSNBC yesterday, saying he didn't see why women need insurance coverage for birth control: "Back in my day, they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees and it wasn't that costly."

 

I found that taking a 75 milligram dose of aspirin several hours before sex massively increased the intensity of one's orgasm.

If the effect you describe is truly related to the aspirin in some way, I suspect it ties to your lower blood pressure after taking the aspirin, or potentially also a lower pain response intensity (something that would counteract a pleasure response and essentially "mute" it). You feel less pain so the pleasure seems more intense is what I'm thinking here, but it's pure speculation (read: I pulled it out of my ass).

 

TBH, though... My money would be on the placebo effect you describe. It would be interesting to try to find a way to confirm.

[John Cuthber]

I can't help thinking that someone would have noticed earlier.

[raid517]

It's something I've always noticed. You guys can try it in the way I've described and eliminate it if you want. I think I probably have low blood pressure and am probably not in the best shape, so I always figured that maybe somehow the blood thinning properties of aspirin that improved the signalling to my central nervous system somehow. To be honest I haven't got a clue how it works, or why it has this effect on me. The enhanced end result though is often too profound to in my view simply be attributed to placebo.

 

A fairer test would be to take 75 mg of dispersible aspirin for 3 nights prior to having sex. Get your wife/partner to give you this or a placebo, which only she would know. Get her to switch randomly from placebo to real aspirin from one week to the next, ensuring there are suitable gaps in taking the drug as above, and note your experiences and see if there is any noticeable difference.

 

I don't know why no one has noticed it before. I have known about it and used it for this purpose for over 20 years. But it's an odd one. I always wanted to tell people about it, but couldn't think of a suitable platform where I could do it. Maybe other people with similar experiences encountered the same problem? Also it's worth noting that those on long term aspirin treatment are unlikely to get the same benefit. My own experiences seem to indicate that the effects only last for the first few days when taking aspirin - and then progressively diminish to become almost unnoticeable over the space of a week. The best approach seems to be a few days on, followed by several days off - and then to repeat the cycle. So maybe those on long term aspirin treatment don't notice it so much, or they do and by the time they think to say anything about it, they don't know who to say it to - and the effect may have worn off by then anyway?

 

Anyway it's worth a shot. 75mg of aspirin won't kill you. Try repeating the cycle over a few weeks and come back and let us know.

 

Also if it was just placebo, why would the effect seem to wear off after a few days? I'm not saying it isn't a placebo. I'm not ruling in, or ruling anything out. I just finally decided that it was something I had noticed for a lot of years, so maybe I should just put it out there. It's just one for the boys - and one for the girls if maybe it works for them too.

 

Edit.

 

I don't think a quick 3 day trial would be likely to prove conclusive for anyone. If anyone wants to try this, I would suggest a month trial at least, including days on and days off as above etc.

 

Also placebo's effects tend to happen when you are expecting something to happen. Like you expect less pain, so you feel less pain, or you expect to feel less anxious when you take a pill, so you do. When I first started taking aspirin, it was simply because there was a lot of good publicity about it at the time regarding it's ability to reduce the risk of heart attacks. (Not that I was particularly at risk, but I was just slightly paranoid about this I suppose). It took me a good long while to make the connection between taking aspirin and my improved sexual experience, since this was not something I expected at all.

Edited July 2, 2012 by raid517

[John Cuthber]

Unless you do the trial " double blind" there's really no way to get any information about whether this is a placebo effect or not.

 

Seriously, how do you think people would have missed this?

Remember that the effect of viagra was discovered by accident- they were looking for an effect on the blood vessels of the heart.

[Joatmon]

Ooooops! My little joke misfired so I've deleted it!

 

 

I got "aphrodisiac" confused with "contraceptive".

I suppose we were lucky to only get the two children we planned for!

 

If a Mod wants to delete this then please do so

Edited July 2, 2012 by Joatmon

[raid517]

@ John Cuthber

 

This isn't a scientific experiment - and in any case there are obvious logistical and practical difficulties in setting up an experiment into this subject. Also sexual reproduction is not my specialist area. I am simply interested in the views of those who may be willing to try it (which you clearly haven't), to see if it might be worthwhile probing the effect more seriously and more formally in the future.

 

I'm a mature student studying a masters in Biology, so I really don't have time to dig very deeply into it now. Nor am I certain I wish to. If anything if it works for anyone else, then I would simply consider it a service for them to enjoy it, in the same way I have.

 

Also I don't see a great deal of personal merit, or benefit in this kind of research. Aspirin has been shown to be philologically effective in a wide range of scenarios. To add one more to the list (although potentially fun for anyone it may benefit) does not strike me as particularly interesting.

 

I do find it quite revealing however that there are the typical round-up of naysayers, ready to discount the effect, without even running the very simplest of tests first - which is to do nothing more than to try it. I mean how hard can it be? (If you'll excuse the pun!)

 

Anyway like I said, this isn't a treatment for impotence. It has nothing to do with Viagra. Nor is it strictly an aphrodisiac in the typical understanding of this term, since it does nothing (for me) to enhance the pleasure or sensuality of the act itself. The effect (again for me) is highly specific, in that it very significantly increases the pleasure of orgasm. It is limited to this effect alone. To put it another way, things tend to go with a bang, rather than with just a fizz when a small amount of aspirin is added to the mix.

Edited July 2, 2012 by raid517

[Moontanman]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marge-baker/war-on-women_b_1285542.html

In a stunning statement, major Santorum supporter billionaire Foster Friess put it even more bluntly on MSNBC yesterday, saying he didn't see why women need insurance coverage for birth control: "Back in my day, they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees and it wasn't that costly."

 

That was what I had in mind but in practical use that only works for women whose lovers have normal to below normal sized penises, for those of us far enough outside the bell curve it's useless....

[John Cuthber]

@ John Cuthber

 

This isn't a scientific experiment - and in any case there are obvious logistical and practical difficulties in setting up an experiment into this subject. Also sexual reproduction is not my specialist area. I am simply interested in the views of those who may be willing to try it (which you clearly haven't),

 

It sure isn't- but you are reporting it on a science site.

There are no real difficulties with testing this. They tested sildenafil. I know it's the same effect, but the "difficulties" would be the same.

At least with 75mg of aspirin you know that the toxicity is trivial for healthy individuals.

It's not as if you would have a shortage of men prepared to try it.

 

I agree that I have never had occasion to try to improve my sexual performance (from my point of view or anyone else's).

But from time to time I have taken aspirin and, if it had the effect that you suggest then I'd have noticed (even though it's not my specialist area)

[Phi for All]

I think, by law, women should have to take an aspirin if they ever use the "I've-got-a-headache" excuse. Either their headache will go away, or they'll suddenly want to have sex, or both. Win-win-win.

[Joatmon]

I have to report that once my wife and I reached a certain age we were both prescribed a daily mini aspirin. Sorry to disappoint you all but it really made no difference. Chocolate seemed rather better!

Edited July 3, 2012 by Joatmon

[raid517]

Yeah, well regular daily use doesn't seem to have much of an effect for me either. It only seems to work if I stagger the dose over the period stated above. After some several days (between 3 to 5+) the effect diminishes significantly. I don't know why, but there may be some element of tolerance involved, although upping the dose does not improve matters either.

 

The benefits for me are in any case mitigated by the necessity to stop after maybe 3 or 4 days anyway, as Aspirin causes me to have really chronic acid reflux and gastric inflammation, which quickly negates any positive effects anyway.

 

I don't know how, or if it might affect females, as, as I said it's not a subject I have ever really broached before. However I have tried multiple ways and multiple methodologies of taking aspirin over 20 years, and the 3 days on followed by several days off and 3 days on etc, seemed to work best for me.

 

Chocolate just makes me ill unfortunately. On another note Cocaine can certainly be used as an aphrodisiac, but the long term detrimental effects of usage are significantly greater than that for aspirin, lol.

 

Nonetheless having explored many substances for their aphrodisiac qualities through the years, aspirin (for me) is the one I have returned to most regularly. (Although the effect was an entirely accidental discovery.) But what the hey, if it doesn't work for anyone else, I'm just happy that it works for me.

Edited July 4, 2012 by raid517

[zapatos]

But what the hey, if it doesn't work for anyone else, I'm just happy that it works for me.

I'm jealous that it only seems to work for you!

[raid517]

I'm jealous that it only seems to work for you!

 

Yeah you are just another dumb naysayer, who can't even be assed trying it before dismissing it. Like I said if anyone does wish to be half-sensible about this, try the methodology as stated above.

 

I'm not saying it will work for you, but I would be infinitely happier to listen to the views of those who were willing to be serious about giving it a go, than I would all the self-proclaimed 'geniuses' here, who are clearly just out to piss on things, in order to enhance their own 'reps'.

 

Like I said this isn't a scientific experiment, nonetheless a lot of these guys are clearly incapable of even behaving rationally.

[zapatos]

Yeah you are just another dumb naysayer, who can't even be assed trying it before dismissing it. Like I said if anyone does wish to be half-sensible about this, try the methodology as stated above.

 

I'm not saying it will work for you, but I would be infinitely happier to listen to the views of those who were willing to be serious about giving it a go, than I would all the self-proclaimed 'geniuses' here, who are clearly just out to piss on things, in order to enhance their own 'reps'.

 

Like I said this isn't a scientific experiment, nonetheless a lot of these guys are clearly incapable of even behaving rationally.

I believe it works for you. It doesn't work for me. I wish it did.

[raid517]

I believe it works for you. It doesn't work for me. I wish it did.

 

Right, so you have been taking it over a 3 week minimum period, noting your results (with breaks in between) in the manner suggested above? I only posted this a few days ago. There simply hasn't been time for you to do this. I'm not saying it will work for you, but for anyone who is interested in giving it a go, I would strongly suggest that you at least follow the above methodology before commenting.

[hypervalent_iodine]

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Yeah you are just another dumb naysayer, who can't even be assed trying it before dismissing it. Like I said if anyone does wish to be half-sensible about this, try the methodology as stated above.

 

I'm not saying it will work for you, but I would be infinitely happier to listen to the views of those who were willing to be serious about giving it a go, than I would all the self-proclaimed 'geniuses' here, who are clearly just out to piss on things, in order to enhance their own 'reps'.

 

Like I said this isn't a scientific experiment, nonetheless a lot of these guys are clearly incapable of even behaving rationally.

 

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Moderator Note

raid517,

So you know, these sorts of posts are not accepted here. Please refer to section 2 of the forum rules and in future, please do not try to insult other members.

[John Cuthber]

Right, so you have been taking it over a 3 week minimum period, noting your results (with breaks in between) in the manner suggested above? I only posted this a few days ago. There simply hasn't been time for you to do this. I'm not saying it will work for you, but for anyone who is interested in giving it a go, I would strongly suggest that you at least follow the above methodology before commenting.

So, lets be clear about this.

You want to explicitly fail to do a proper study of the effect.

[raid517]

First I don't have the resources, or the time, or the money to run a proper full scale test. Second I am simply looking for some anecdotal evidence to see whether it might be worthwhile doing a full study at some point in the future. Perhaps when I do have access to these - and by chance my career somehow goes in that direction (which is unlikely), and I can also secure funding to run such a test, I may consider your advice more seriously then. This is after all a very esoteric subject, with no very useful applications other than helping (some, if not all) members of the population enjoy the act of sexual congress somewhat more than they may have done in the previously. Somehow I just don't see this being an attractive funding proposition for any of the research bodies I know of, or have worked with in the past.

 

Thirdly, with the greatest of respect, you really are still just being a wet soggy towel over the whole matter, and have maintained your naysayer credentials intact from the outset. You really have decided from the beginning that for whatever reason, you really just don't like this idea. However the reality is that I don't really care if you like the idea or not. If you don't like it, then don't try it, don't participate and don't post anymore about why you don't like it. Just refusing to try it, dumping on the idea and coming here to complain about why you don't like it (although that is still far from clear at this point), isn't in the least bit helpful. It was posted here as a bit of fun, for guys (and girls too perhaps) to try and maybe see whether it worked for them or not. I mean what on Earth harm is there in that? If it helps some people enjoy their sex lives a little more from time to time, then that for me is a win enough. I'm not looking to build my reputation on what people do to get their rocks off. That's up to them.

 

Lastly the above methodology was suggested simply because it's the one I used and found most effective (after 20 years of trying). I found that if I took aspirin for any more than a few days at a stretch, the beneficial effects wore off - or maybe I became so used to them that eventually I just didn't notice them any more. Taking (at least) a few days off also proved necessary for me, because taking aspirin for significantly longer periods than this caused gastral inflammation and chronic acid reflux, which significantly negated the benefits of the pleasurable effects. This was less of a problem 10 or so years ago, but has become more of a problem as I have become older. Perhaps younger people might be able to have shorter breaks, but I suggest that no one over does it too much, as long term aspirin use may have a number of risks associated with it. Taking days off also helps provide the pleasure seeker with a useful contrast between days when they have taken aspirin and days when they haven't.

 

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Moderator Note

raid517,

So you know, these sorts of posts are not accepted here. Please refer to section 2 of the forum rules and in future, please do not try to insult other members.

 

I stand by what I said. I believe I was simply stating something that was patently obvious. However your point is duly noted and will be considered fully.

Edited July 6, 2012 by raid517

[John Cuthber]

"First I don't have the resources, or the time, or the money to run a proper full scale test."

Others may, but what you asked was that they avoided that sort of test.

 

"Somehow I just don't see this being an attractive funding proposition for any of the research bodies I know of, or have worked with in the past."

Have you seen how much money Pfizer made from viagra?

 

"Thirdly, with the greatest of respect, you really are still just being a wet soggy towel over the whole matter, and have maintained your naysayer credentials intact from the outset."

And I will continue to maintain my naysayer attitude until you answer one simple question

 

How come nobody noticed this before?

[raid517]

I didn't say no one else could run a full scale trial. As I said I have neither the time, resources or money to do it. Nor do I feel that this is a direction that I would like my career to go in. I also think there is little money, or credit in yet another aspirin study. If maybe you think a useful aspirin analogue can be found that will have the same, or perhaps an even more enhanced effect, you are free to explore this at your leisure. However I have tried the majority of other commercially available anti-inflammatory/aspirin analogues at one time or other, and none of these have provided the same effect. I also would simply in my own part, be happy to have brought a little more happiness and fun to the world than may have been the case previously. Nor did I recommend that others should avoid undertaking a full scale test at all. What I did recommend is that no one should indulge in long term aspirin use without seeking proper medical advice and supervision first - and that since I feel that this could be potentially damaging, that taking short breaks between usage may be a sensible thing to do. Aspirin is notorious for causing gastro-oesophageal inflammatory problems, and it seems sensible to me to offer advice on the best way to limit this possibility.

 

Also in answer to your final question (although there is no need to shout, as I'm sure everyone can hear your complaining loudly enough already), the advice given about taking regular short breaks, was also given simply because my experience has been that long-term continuous use is ineffective in achieving the desired effect - and that there appears to be a rule of diminishing returns after a few days of continuous usage. I am aware of several drugs like this - and I suspect if you are an expert on pharmacology, as you appear to present yourself here, that you must be aware of many of these drugs too. Also the advice about taking breaks was given purely in order to provide those interested in exploring this effect, with a useful contrast between those days when they had taken the drug and when they had not, since as the effect diminishes after some days, it may be difficult for them to make the connection. Moreover most people prescribed aspirin, are prescribed it for long-term usage. Therefore since the effect does diminish after a few days of use, if a user has a particularly pleasurable experience on one or two nights after starting usage, he (or she) may be inclined to attribute it to other factors.

 

Lastly your question can be most simply answered by my own experience of this matter, in that it took me the best part of 20 years to think of an appropriate time and place, and an appropriate method in which to broach the subject. I just genuinely couldn't think where and how such a matter could be discussed. Even the choice of this forum seemed somewhat random. However since this subsection carried the title of a 'Biology forum', and since my own time was passing and I doubted I would ever be able to broach it in any other way, I thought that the association (as loose as it might be), was probably as good as it would get. My answer to your question therefore, is that even if anyone had noticed this before, I would guess that they faced a similar dilemma to me.Where exactly do you discuss matters of this nature - and who would you even speak to if you wished to? After all, research into active aphrodisiac substances is almost a non-existent field - so there appears to be few useful ways to approach the subject formally. Moreover people are probably more reluctant to discuss the intimate specifics of their sex lives than you may think. Particularly when it comes to the matter of sexual climax. People may feel some natural degree of reluctance and sensitivity about discussing these matters openly in public with others. I admit that this was also part of my own motivation for remaining silent for almost 20 years. As an ex-Catholic, such matters are often regarded as taboo. And even though I have dismissed the last vestiges of this belief system many years ago, some conservative elements of the instruction I received during that time have been more difficult to shake off than others.

 

In any case I cannot understand why you will not even contemplate trying it - and would prefer instead to just sling as much mud at it as you possibly can? (Although with little effect up to this point.) I can only assume that perhaps you either lack the libido, or the opportunity to try? Should this be the case however, this is certainly not something I feel qualified to help you with. Nonetheless, if this is not the case, then why not try it - in whichever way you feel is most scientifically rigorous and appealing to you? I confess though that I have never previously thought the act of lovemaking as a science. However if you wish to treat it as such, I''m sure you will gain many useful insights in the course of your observations. (With notebook and slide-rule in hand no doubt!)

 

However personally, just getting laid and having a little fun is probably more than enough for me.

[John Cuthber]

It's interesting to note that you say there's no need to shout. Shouting got you to answer the question: nothing else had.

 

It's also interesting that you say that you don't have the time and resources to do a useful experiment, but you deride me for not doing a pointless one.

 

People sometimes take aspirin for a short while as a result of things like toothache or colds.

While it's true that most people who are prescribed aspirin are told to take if long-term I think many people who take it are not getting it prescribed- they just buy some at the chemist's or the supermarket.

 

"My answer to your question therefore, is that even if anyone had noticed this before, I would guess that they faced a similar dilemma to me.Where exactly do you discuss matters of this nature - and who would you even speak to if you wished to?"

Your doctor.

If I found myself in your position I'd certainly ask my doctor- not least because I'd ask if there was anything I could do to improve the effect.

 

Also as I said: there's a precedent.

Viagra was discovered by accident (I know it's not the same effect- but the issues are pretty similar) .

People really did report the effect even though it would have been embarrassing.

 

And finally, you might want to read this again and see who is slinging mud.

 

"In any case I cannot understand why you will not even contemplate trying it - and would prefer instead to just sling as much mud at it as you possibly can? (Although with little effect up to this point.) I can only assume that perhaps you either lack the libido, or the opportunity to try? Should this be the case however, this is certainly not something I feel qualified to help you with. Nonetheless, if this is not the case, then why not try it - in whichever way you feel is most scientifically rigorous and appealing to you? I confess though that I have never previously thought the act of lovemaking as a science. However if you wish to treat it as such, I''m sure you will gain many useful insights in the course of your observations. (With notebook and slide-rule in hand no doubt!)"

[raid517]

It's the same weak derisory nonsense as ever. As it happens through the course of the years, I have spoken to my GP about it. He found it interesting and plausible, but like me could see no useful way to exploit the effect further. Exactly what would you do? How is there any merit in exploring this subject in any formal sense? This isn't Viagra. The effect is significantly different. You are not treating a physiological disorder. The effect is specific and limited to enhancing the pleasure of the final moments of the act itself. What exactly are you going to do with something like that? Rebrand aspirin? Market it as being something other than it is? The entire exercise would seem more than a little pointless. The best you could hope for is to inform people about it, and leave it for them to do with the information whatever they will. If someone did want to run a formal study, then all power and credit to them. However human physiology and sexual heath is by no means a field I have any personal experience in - nor do I feel it is a direction I would like my career to take. I have simply done here as I set out to do, which is to note an interesting effect that I have noticed for over the last 20 years, and place it in the public domain for others to explore should they see fit.

 

Certainly people may take aspirin for short periods of time to treat toothache etc. But there is some degree of subjective experience involved here. If you take aspirin for a few days - and on the 2nd or 3rd day you enjoy a particularly pleasurable experience with your partner, the association may not always be obvious. It took me some time, perhaps over the space of 2 or 3 years before I was able to make the association. It was at that time that I began to experiment with different patterns of usage. It was throughout this process that I found that taking a few days off from using aspirin, provided a useful contrast to those days when I did take it Otherwise the effect appeared to diminish, or became increasingly difficult to distinguish.

 

As for your argument concerning Viagra, I can only repeat that my own personal experience was that for nearly 20 years, I could not think of any useful place, or any useful circumstance in which I could share the information. I suspect if the effect has been noted previously by anyone, that they probably simply faced a similar dilemma to me. Moreover the effects of Viagra were discovered entirely accidentally, in the course of a full scale clinical trial into the use of this drug (then called 'sildenafil') as a treatment for a number of heart conditions, including angina. Clearly in the course of a full-scale clinical trail the potential to note unexpected physiological effects is greatly enhanced - as these will be screened for and scrutinised very carefully. Moreover if you have ever taken Viagra, you will note that there is a very pronounced physiological effect. An effect that indeed is both long-lasting and rather difficult to hide. I don't imagine it would take long in the course of such a trail for the effect in question to become evident!

 

Such a similar clinical trial into the application of aspirin in the way I have suggested, has clearly never taken place, so the potential to make any similar useful observations is therefore clearly considerably lessened. Nor did I deride you from not doing an experiment. In fact my recommendation is that you toddle off and do whatever does, or does not please you most, and that you leave others to do the same. In fact since you clearly dislike this topic so intensely (although in my view with little rational basis), I would recommend that you never try this, and that you never revisit the topic again. Would this not be the most logical solution for you, given how vehemently you appear to have decided that this topic is of no interest or value to you?

 

Also it is you, and not I who suggested the importance of doing a full scale formal trial. (A trial which you have subsequently dismissed as 'pointless'.) I am not certain you understand how research works, but such a trial is not a simple matter. It would take considerable time, money and resources to conduct and would require a large number of volunteers, all of whom would be required to reveal some intimately personal details of their day to day sex lives. Unless you have expertise in this field, I would suspect that being able to construct such a trial would be rather impractical. Who would you persuade to fund it? Where is the prestige and financial reward for doing so? A pill that anyone can already buy for pennies is likely to be of little interest to a great many funding bodies. Viagra was a novel drug, with a mass market appeal and application. Aspirin on the other hand has been with us in its current form since 1899. It cannot be patented, as it's patent has expired a very long time ago.

 

Anyway I get it that you don't like this idea (even though you have so far given little rational explanation why and even though you have shown a willingness to do so without even as much as trying it for yourself). But that's fair enough. However clearly your protestations have proved nothing, other than that you don't like this idea and that you do not want to try it. This is also perfectly fine. I didn't set out here to prove anything. I set out only to share my own personal experiences - and to give other people the opportunity to try to see if they also could achieve a similar effect. It is of course entirely their choice should they chose to do so or not.