Spin Gravity- Magnetism

[Zarkov]

Good thoughts Fafalone, thanks :)

[Sayonara]

:adminowns

[Zarkov]

Oh shush Sayorara!

[Radical Edward]

are you really going to read some books on physics now then?

[Zarkov]

Just as soon as I learn to read!! English that is!!

:)

[Radical Edward]

get one in your own language then. what is your first language?

[Zarkov]

Mentalese! What's yours RadE?

[Radical Edward]

English, funnily enough.

[Zarkov]

oh, then English is your second language, just as it is mine!!

 

Englishese! >

[Radical Edward]

huh?

[Zarkov]

Sorry RadE if you hang around me too much you will be as crazy as I am.

 

Mentalese is everybodies first language, it is the language inside your head, you then translate into english!

 

I was just wagging your tail!!

[Radical Edward]

that much I figured out, on account of it not being a real language...

[Zarkov]

Oh no, it's a REAL language, it is the same in everybodies head, it is just thst it can not be spoken...I use it in AI

[Sayonara]

You keep saying 'AI'. I am not going to assume it means what I think it means, because you are a self-confessed mentalist.

 

Please define.

[Radical Edward]

I despair. I really do.

[Zarkov]

Rad E, Sayonara, ?? if you despair , what for, I give you informtion you do not know.

Are you yhinking you do not have a built in language?? Well think again!!

 

Yes and AI means Artificial Intelligence, my pet subject!, in which I shall have a brain online sometime soon!

 

But am I stranger than Fiction? :)

[Radical Edward]

can you actually program?

[Zarkov]

I am because I am. >

[Sayonara]

Can you give me an example of how one would program a function in 'mentalese'?

[Zarkov]

To do any task, there is a need to record and list the individual application and the series sequence of abilities.

 

The outside expression of the inside mentalese is the language you speak.

 

All the processes you use to engage logic reflect the innate process pathways.

 

The actual architectural structures we create in reality reflect the structural processing created in the mind as harmony, ie can compute. IMO

[Sayonara]

Originally posted by Zarkov

To do any task, there is a need to record and list the individual application and the series sequence of abilities.

The outside expression of the inside mentalese is the language you speak.

All the processes you use to engage logic reflect the innate process pathways.

The actual architectural structures we create in reality reflect the structural processing created in the mind as harmony, ie can compute. IMO

I didn't ask for your opinon, or a vague explanation without sources - I asked how specifically you'd go about actually programming AI in 'mentalese'.

 

You said you do it - let's hear how.

[aman]

I saw an account of an experiment on PBS where some very patient lab techs. played with babies who could not yet talk but could almost form words. They taught them an unusual task/game and played it many times. They stopped it for two years and when the children had a small vocabulary they showed them the game again. The children could say "I put my green blocks here", "I'm drawing a picture with a crayon". They played the task/game with no trouble but they could not describe what they were doing. They had no words for it, they knew how to do it so they were thinking in "mentalese".

I agree with Zarkov there is one but it is very basic.

Just my little input.

Just aman

[fafalone]

You're confusing habituation with language. These are not the same.

[Zarkov]

Yes Aman, that is mentalese.

 

When we have two people or more we need a language above body language to communicate, that is our second language, but the first language that we think with is our mentalese.

It is the same for each person, and most probably at lower and lower levels, for all creatures great and small.

[Zarkov]

http://casswww.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/AGN.html

 

Fantastic pictures of objects (planets etc) being ejected from spinning bodies !!