fafalone Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Well I had a pretty bad day today, so tonight I IMd our good friend and two-time Hall of Shamer Adam to ask him the current Planet-X situation. I needed a good laugh, and I was not disappointed. fafaIone: I WIN sacredcity3: win what ? sacredcity3: the immaturity contest sacredcity3: i give you the titanium award! sacredcity3: ((claps)) fafaIone: no way, you totally won the immaturity contest with your 5 year old intelligence (only way you could believe that stuff) fafaIone: hey so when is the planet getting here fafaIone: this month? fafaIone: i still don't see it sacredcity3: in 13 days sacredcity3: it should become partially visible fafaIone: :::looks out window at sky::: no planet sacredcity3: in april fafaIone: wait so it will get here before its visible? sacredcity3: why do you say that ? fafaIone: 13 days is still march. sacredcity3: no i didn't finish sacredcity3: i was gonna say, in april sacredcity3: i'tl be visible everywhere sacredcity3: bypartially i meant in certain areas of world fafaIone: i.e. whatever parts of the world i'm not in right sacredcity3: why do you care , enough to im me and ask me that , If some scientists say to me, that humans can belive in some thing that isn't there, then you probabbly can not believe in something that is there. fafaIone: you sure believe in something that isn't there. fafaIone: let me do some quick calculations... but if it's travelling at a rate on the same order of magnitude as every other planet, theres no way it could get here in april and not yet be visible with a really big telescope fafaIone: since i have access to one, i'd like to get the coordinates to see it sacredcity3: that sounds familiar what you said sacredcity3: oh yea, sci.astro debates@! sacredcity3: brb fafaIone: yeah, last time you gave me coords i looked up and saw a whole lot of nothing sacredcity3: what were the coordinates fafaIone: like i remember sacredcity3: you should be seeing a whole beunch of others stars sacredcity3: and asteroids sacredcity3: so i dont believe how you saw sacredcity3: absolutely nothing fafaIone: by absolutely nothing, i mean no planet-sized objects heading this way sacredcity3: from that distance, it's critical to judge planet sized objects. fafaIone: simple astrophysics sacredcity3: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/zeta8b.JPG sacredcity3: you should be seeing things like that sacredcity3: these people spend ridiculous amount of time, doing just that, and calculating fafaIone: so do professional astronomers with much better telescopes sacredcity3: anyways, because you know it's not real sacredcity3: you shouldn't have any problem fafaIone: where's the calculations? sacredcity3: all over the site sacredcity3: although, it still somehow intrigues you fafaIone: yeah, how anyone can believe this nonsense is a fascinating study in abnormal psychology sacredcity3: there you go. sacredcity3: bare with it fafaIone: at what date will it be unmistakeably visible by the naked eye in north america? fafaIone: because i want to unban you from SF so we all can mock you on that date sacredcity3: Hold on sacredcity3: expand your im window, so the lines don't collapse sacredcity3: MAR 31 APR 7 APR 14 APR 21 APR 28 South Africa: Capetown 12:00 11:30 11:00 10:30 10:00 South Africa: Capetown 22:00 21:30 21:00 20:30 20:00 France: Paris 11:00 10:30 10:00 09:30 09:00 France: Paris 22:30 22:00 21:30 21:00 20:30 Argentina: Buenos Aires 12:00 11:30 11:00 10:30 10:00 Argentina: Buenos Aires 22:00 21:30 21:00 20:30 20:00 Canada: Vancouver 10:30 10:00 09:30 09:00 08:30 Canada: Vancouver 22:00 21:30 21:00 20:30 20:00 Australia: Sydney 11:00 10:30 10:00 09:30 09:00 Australia: Sydney 21:00 20:30 20:00 19:30 19:00 Japan: Osaka 11:00 10:30 10:00 09:30 09:00 Japan: Osaka 21:30 21:00 20:30 20:00 19:30 fafaIone: so when i look up at the sky and still don't see it, will you come up with a reason like only true believers can see it? sacredcity3: no sacredcity3: lol sacredcity3: it'l prolly make it to news sacredcity3: before you'l see it sacredcity3: but not recognized as a planet fafaIone: still not on the news yet tho. sacredcity3: after people see the core sacredcity3: it'l get on there sacredcity3: anyhow fafaIone: and when it doesn't? sacredcity3: then whatever you want to fafaIone: this is going to be so hilarious, ill bet anything you'll never show your face on SF again after the time for it to arrive comes and goes and nothing happens fafaIone: "oh well, next conspiracy!" sacredcity3: but when i see it finally sacredcity3: i won 't even have to laugh at you fafaIone: mass suicide? sacredcity3: because poleshift is in may fafaIone: TAKE ME TO THE LIGHT SHIP! sacredcity3: and you live in florida sacredcity3: so i'l just remeber you got washed away by water somwhere in miami fafaIone: magnetic pole shifts happen fafaIone: but not because planets pass by fafaIone: geographic pole shifts happen too, precession fafaIone: but not because of planets fafaIone: i believe the next magnetic pole shift will be occuring in ~10,000 years sacredcity3: yada yada fafaIone: sorry, is real science boring you? at that point he put up an away message and never came back. 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Sayonara Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 sacredcity3: after people see the core Is he talking about the god-awful film, or does his cult believe Nibiru wears its core outside its surface like all good planets do? TAKE ME TO THE LIGHTSHIP! <-- Comedy Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Is it a suicide cult? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudde Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 *picks self off the ground and wipes a tear of laughter from his eye* you guys are so mean and heartless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PogoC7 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone sacredcity3: http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/rogue/zeta8b.JPG WHOLE lot of NOTHING. I understand believing in the unknown somewhat, but this is just ridicules. Maybe a DEATH STAR. I would think that first, before a natural planet. Then it would truly be over. WHY!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 I can understand France will see it, and one guy in Tasmania cus they know the trick. You look for it with your eyes closed and chant "I believe". Thanks Faf for the progress report. In May we'll here him say, "I meant next year." Thanks for keeping him at a distance. Just aman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1917 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 when adam says yada yada yada in response to the pole shift explanation by faf, why does he contine to belive all professional geologists are wrong? the mechanism of the actual pole shift is irrelevant here, its simply the intervals at which they happenand it sure as hell wasnt 3600 years. i presume hes in high school because i rememebr a post where he claimed atoms consisted of a central nucleus surrounded by orbiting electrons and protons, Rutherford will be turning in his grave! its people like this that make you sad we live in a democracy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Originally posted by greg1917 when adam says yada yada yada in response to the pole shift explanation by faf, why does he contine to belive all professional geologists are wrong? the mechanism of the actual pole shift is irrelevant here, its simply the intervals at which they happenand it sure as hell wasnt 3600 years. I explained the pole shift mechanism and why it couldn't have happened 3600 years ago several times, but like all good pseudoscientists he ignored the information. Remember though, this is the guy who believed a website dedicated to pole shift survival - one which recommended pitching a tent somewhere high up. Let's hope that's what he does if the pole ever does shift. Has anybody thought about what we'll say if Adam turns out to be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudde Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 we'll sure hear a bunch of "uh oh" 's and "oh crap"'s I'm sure;) a central nucleus with orbiting protons and electrons..?O_o hehe... wish I coulda been there^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 I never understood this pole-shift thing. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the magnetic poles of the Earth have flipped several times in its history, and that these flips, when they happen, happen extremely quickly (i.e. the magnetic field becomes more and more unstable, but then reaches a threshold and 'jumps' to its opposite state, where it quickly restabilises) but I don't remember anything about it being a catastrophic event. I seem to remember (and my memory is very hazy on this) that beyond having a bunch of very pissed off cartographers, pilots and helmsmen, we would barely notice the event. Why would magnetic North becoming magnetic South be catastrophic? Is it that the cost of recalling all compasses and repainting all the needles would cause a global economic collapse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 It would have an effect on migratory animals that use the magnetic field you'd think, any palaeontological (now thats a word!) studies done on the effects on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Originally posted by Sayonara³ It's not a viewpoint, it's fact. Every now and then the Earth's core does a bit of a backflip and the magnetic field of the planet changes polarity for a few hundred years. The change can leave the planet without any magnetic field at all for several years at a time. You can see the signature of these events in the magnetic strips on the ocean floor, which are formed by plate movement over the years and have been mapped by sattelite. Without a magnetic field, the planet is vulnerable to all the lovely intense radiation in the solar wind. Not a lot can escape bombardment by this radiation, and previous events charted by the patterns on the ocean bed corrolate with past extinction events. There was no extinction event 3600 years ago, because there was no flip. Afaik, the last flip was around 30,000 years ago and DID match up with widespread and sudden extinctions. Google for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 30,000 years isn't that long ago. That would be the middle of the late Pleistocene Epoch (35,000 - 25,000 years ago). The Earth already supported a fairly rich and diverse population of human beings by then, not to mention huge herds of ice-age animals, Aurochs, Mammoth, Giant deer, etc, etc. The flipping of the magnetic poles couldn't have done that much damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Hence "afaik" - "as far as I know". Probably missed a zero or two off there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 Dagnabbit! Now I'm gonna have to do research to find out...:slaphead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 sacredcity3: http://www.space.com/spacewatch/moon_mars_030421.html fafaIone: looks like another celestial event not at all related to planet x. sacredcity3: well then maybe you should check that site every 2-3 days sacredcity3: because every 2-3 days they have something that no one else but them talks about and it has to do with viewing sacredcity3: something red in sky, or being visible. fafaIone: you mean mars sacredcity3: no fafaIone: the "red" planet sacredcity3: niburu is red fafaIone: Your search - niburu - did not match any documents. No pages were found containing "niburu". fafaIone: space.com hasn't mentioned it. fafaIone: why can't i look up right now and see planet x? sacredcity3: are ytoyu sure ? fafaIone: quite. fafaIone: sacredcity3: i was gonna say, in april sacredcity3: i'tl be visible everywhere fafaIone: everywhere except coral gables, fl right sacredcity3: i hardly believe it to , but when i check those sites it informs me otherwise sacredcity3: then people im me and say sacredcity3: you were right, i saw it etc fafaIone: yeah, they're making fun of you sacredcity3: no fafaIone: raider did that, then we later mocked in the irc channel. sacredcity3: irc channel.. fafaIone: irc.sorcery.net #scienceforums sacredcity3: knew that was coming fafaIone: i really don't see a planet heading this way. fafaIone: when is supposed to get here? sacredcity3: supposed to be here already fafaIone: why havent' fafaIone: the poles shifted fafaIone: why can't anyone see it fafaIone: except people you claim IM you sacredcity3 signed off at 9:53:27 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 ace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I really am quite looking forward to this, since it means that when we all get fried by the cosmic radiation, I won't have to do any revision for the damn a-levels that are coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 however if we don't, then you will have a load of A-Levels to do that you haven't revised for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I'd better get started then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 you do that, don't be a slacker like I am/was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiles Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Why dont you unban Adam and let him defend himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 I'm all for it, I say we give him a months grace, and maybe restrict him to pseudoscience, at which point we are either all a) dead or b) he is proved completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Sounds good to me. I'm all for a bit of light entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted April 22, 2003 Author Share Posted April 22, 2003 He's already been proved completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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