Evidence for Dark matter and Dark Energy

[EMField]

If we are going to keep speculative ideas to the correct forum, then why are we discussing Dark Matter and Dark Energy since they have no laboratory evidence that such exist, or any observations in space?????????????? Other than pure speculation of course.

[ACG52]

We have evidence of a gravitational field where we cannot see any matter to generate it. From this, we deduce there is something there that we can't see. This is Dark matter.

[imatfaal]

Further to ACG - we have evidence of red-shifts / luminance of type 1a supernovae that do not correspond to a universe in which expansion is governed solely by gravity and motion. From this we have deduced that something is accelerating the expansion. We have called this Dark Energy.

[EMField]

No, they have evidence that plasma is there and this plasma is emitting the x-rays and EM forces. Maybe soon NASA will get everyone all straightened out as to what plasma is:

 

http://www.nasa.gov/...atmosphere.html

 

That electric fields and magnetic fields cause this:

 

http://www.astronomy...40-5474af1661a3

 

They have evidence plasma causes red-shift:

 

http://www.sciencedi...030402608000089

 

They have evidence that gravity is the electric and magnetic forces combined:

 

http://farside.ph.ut...res/node73.html

Magnetic map: http://core2.gsfc.nasa.gov/research/pur ... index.html

Gravitational map: http://lunarnetworks.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... ghest.html

 

They also have that fact that relativity was based upon a static universe, not an expanding one:

 

http://en.wikipedia....Static_universe

"A static universe, also referred to as a "stationary" or "Einstein" universe, is a model in which space is neither expanding nor contracting. Albert Einstein proposed such a model as his preferred cosmology in 1917"

 

They have evidence that electrical fields and only electrical fields accelerate particles. It is called CERN.

http://public.web.ce.../HowLHC-en.html

 

 

They have zero evidence for Dark Matter and Dark Energy. The only thing dark that is there is theorists refusal to connect the dots because they are trying to keep their beloved and dying theories propped upright. Even if it requires ignoring existing forces and adding fairy dust instead. CERN uses electric fields to accelerate particles and magnetic fields to "squeeze" (as they term it) particles closer together. You have measured the x-ray and magnetic fields given off by the plasma, which as NASA puts so eloquently and standard theorists ignore, is an electrified gas. Only charge causes magnetism which "squeezes" things closer together, only charge accelerates particles, and 99% of the universe is made up of a charged medium. As a great man once said: E=mc^2

Edited August 15, 2012 by EMField

[EMField]

I posted it in the correct forum. There is not one shred of evidence for DM or DE that isn't directly related to existing forces. Ignore them all you want, but NASA says you do not understand anything about plasma because you refuse to accept what it is.

 

http://www.nasa.gov/...atmosphere.html

 

As for your theories, NASA has this to say about them:

"We need models to help predict hazardous events in the belts and right now we are aren't very good at that."

 

You aren't very good at it because you do not understand plasma. And plasma physics is an approved science, so why is it speculative?

http://en.wikipedia....a_%28physics%29

 

And plasma is dark until it goes into glow mode.

http://en.wikipedia...._glow_discharge

 

Wake up people, get your heads out of the sand.

 

And if you are going to move my post please have the courtesy to post the link you moved it to, or is that your way of hiding contrary evidence?

Edited August 16, 2012 by EMField

[timo]

And if you are going to move my post please have the courtesy to post the link you moved it to, or is that your way of hiding contrary evidence?

No way are we going to tell you where your post went (we were actually hoping that you wouldn't realize that "has been moved to speculations" was a lie). We'd all be unemployed if you uncovered our dark matter plot.

[EMField]

No way are we going to tell you where your post went (we were actually hoping that you wouldn't realize that "has been moved to speculations" was a lie). We'd all be unemployed if you uncovered our dark matter plot.

 

And of course the link wasn't supplied because as we know most people are too lazy to do their own research and certainly won't go try to find it. As a matter of fact, just how much do YOU know about plasma? You might want to actually study up on it since 99% of the universe is made of plasma, but of course plasma physics is not a required course for astronomy or cosmology, even though as NASA and every text-book will tell you that all but 1% of the universe is made of it. So ignore 99% of the universe if you want, it's nothing but par for the course in theoretical science today anyways.

 

But when you ignore 99% of the universe it is no wonder you have to invent about the same amount in fairy dust.

[ACG52]

Plasma Universe enthusiasts are certainly.... enthusiastic.

[timo]

And of course the link wasn't supplied because as we know most people are too lazy to do their own research and certainly won't go try to find it.

Absolutely. It's a pitty that all those smart people outside there are so lazy. We, in our plot, avoid lazyness problems by only chosing the most reliable people as moderators, since that job involves things like removing the automatically generated link to the new location by hand.

 

 

As a matter of fact, just how much do YOU know about plasma?

Nothing. It's not needed for my role in our plot.

Edited August 17, 2012 by timo

[ukgazzer]

I can make very convincing silhouettes of rabbits with my hands.The same kind of logic that would say that my hands have turned into rabbits could be being employed in suggesting the existence of dark matter.I have not got perfect 20:20 vision and maybe cosmologists should accept the possibility that maybe they might not have either and maybe some visual factor is involved.