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If two expressions are exactly equivalent, then are their integrals exactly equivalent?

 

I was trying to work out, without using integration by parts (trying to avoid infinite series and all that)

 

[math]

\int sin(x) cos(x) dx

[/math]

 

So naturally, I consulted my double angle formulae, and saw that

 

[math]

sin(2x) = 2 sin(x) cos(x)

[/math]

 

which obviously implies that,

 

[math]

sin(x) cos(x) = \tfrac{1}{2} sin(2x)

[/math]

 

The integral of the RHS is an easy one, so I just did,

 

[math]

\frac{1}{2} \int sin(2x) dx = -\tfrac{1}{4} cos(2x) + c

[/math]

 

and so assumed that,

 

[math]

\int sin(x) cos(x) dx = -\tfrac{1}{4} cos(2x) + c

[/math]

 

but I then check Wikipedia, and a couple of integral calculators for good measure, and they tell me the actual integral is

 

[math]

-\tfrac{1}{2} cos^2(x)

[/math]

 

and since

 

[math]

\tfrac{1}{4} cos(2x) =! \tfrac{1}{2} cos^2(x)

[/math]

 

I'm now a bit stumped as to why my integral is wrong. All the below are confirmed to be correct,

 

[math]

sin(2x) = 2 sin(x) cos(x)

[/math]

[math]

\int sin(2x) = -\tfrac{1}{2} cos(2x)

[/math]

 

by the same sources which told me the integrals were different! For God's sake, you can even go on one of those graph plotters and ask it to plot the integrals of sin(x)*cos(x) and (1/2)*(sin(2x)), and it plots the same graph twice!!!

 

I'm tearing my hair out here, can somebody please tell me if I'm just missing something obvious, or if some of my sources are incorrect?

Posted

your answer is correct too

they are the same

because

1- let u=sin(x)

then integral= (1/2)*[sin(x)]^2

 

2- let u = cos (x)

then integral =-(1/2)*[cos(x)]^2

sum tow integrals =( 1/2)*{[sin(x)]^2-[cos(x)]^2}=-(1/2)*cos(2x)...... ( this for tow integrals ,but we have one integral then we must devide on 1/2)

and got finally =-(1/4)*[cos(2x)]

it means you and they are correct dont wory

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i wrote in this way because i think you will understand what i wanted to say

if you dont understand i will write more clear

for you

your answer is correct too

they are the same

because

1- let u=sin(x)

then integral= (1/2)*[sin(x)]^2

 

2- let u = cos (x)

then integral =-(1/2)*[cos(x)]^2

sum tow integrals =( 1/2)*{[sin(x)]^2-[cos(x)]^2}=-(1/2)*cos(2x)...... ( this for tow integrals ,but we have one integral then we must devide on 1/2)

and got finally =-(1/4)*[cos(2x)]

it means you and they are correct dont wory

biggrin.gif

 

 

 

Posted

You have indefinite integrals only up to a constant.

 

In particular

 

[math]- \frac{1}{4} \cos(2x) = - \frac{1}{4}\left( 2 \cos^{2}x -1 \right)[/math]

 

from the double angle formula. So you get the same answer up to a constant.

Posted

So we have three possible integrals for this function, sin(x)*cos(x).... which are

 

[math]

\frac{sin^2(x)}{2}

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[math]

\frac{-cos^2(x)}{2}

[/math]

 

[math]

\frac{-cos(2x)}{4}

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and these expressions satisfy the following equalities

 

[math]

\frac{1}{2} - \frac{cos^2(x)}{2} = \frac{sin^2(x)}{2}

[/math]

 

[math]

\frac{-cos(2x)}{4} - \frac{1}{4} = \frac{cos^2(x)}{2}

[/math]

 

[math]

\frac{sin^2(x)}{2} - \frac{1}{4} = \frac{-cos(2x)}{4}

[/math]

 

 

.....Is this something to do with the constant of integration? and if so, then how do you know which one to use when calculating a definite integral?

 

Sorry ajb, my reply was an inb4, it just took ages to type ;)

Posted

Sorry ajb, my reply was an inb4, it just took ages to type ;)

 

No problem.

 

.....Is this something to do with the constant of integration? and if so, then how do you know which one to use when calculating a definite integral?

 

It will not matter which one you use, the constants will simple cancel when calculating a definite integral.

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