Why do Hurricanes so resemble spiral Galaxies?

[MarvenM]

I was looking at a picture of Hurricane Issac in the Wikipedia and I was struck yet again by how much they resemble the typical double spiral galaxy.

 

http://en.wikipedia...._2012_1630Z.jpg

 

Remembering well Feynman's Dictum that the same equations always have the same solutions, what equation do galaxies and hurricanes have in common?

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Ronald and all!

 

 

I think this can be best described as Torque

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

 

 

 

if you view the picture of the pretty different galaxy types the other gentleman posted, it resembles alot

 

the stages a torque converter goes through.

 

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/information/torque-converter2.htm

 

 

 

galaxies and hurricanes both have a central eye of rotation.

 

 

 

Cheers!

[Ronald Hyde]

Hi Ronald and all!

I think this can be best described as Torque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

if you view the picture of the pretty different galaxy types the other gentleman posted, it resembles alot

the stages a torque converter goes through.

http://auto.howstuff...-converter2.htm

galaxies and hurricanes both have a central eye of rotation.

Cheers!

You guys are great, everyone that has made a positive effort has added to the puzzle and the solution. What we're gonna end up with is a systems of equations, with all

these elements included, like that Maxwell guys system. Right now I'm in my Cassius mode, thinking about how things fit, which is becoming to look very clear. But I can relate

things I see back to direct physical things, Real World Physics I call it. They all have names and are well described, but not always well understood. And some you can see

in everyday events, so it's not like we need an 8 billion dollar accelerator to start understanding how it all fits together as a seamless whole.

[rwjefferson]

...what equation do galaxies and hurricanes have in common?

 

The gestation of Isaac is a beautiful model of two amorphous galaxies spiraling together to make a singular vortex. Remember that one should proceed to simpler theories until simplicity can be traded for greater explanatory power.

 

Start with your best atmospheric models and then reduce the vertical dimension to a singular point spinning up. Distill the inertial and gravitational properties of baryonic particles to the weakly inertial and gravitational properties of quantum particles.

 

peace

dr. ron

 

def: vortex

the tango of newton in verse bernoulli

[Matty-O]

First off, I'm a COMPLETE amateur. I am just an average Joe who has a lot of interest in Cosmology and I randomly googled the comparison of galaxies to hurricanes and it took me to this forum. Signed up to ask these questions.

 

 

In the most simple terms without going super into depth, do you think "scale" gets under appreciated a bit when it comes to comparing these two things? What if what "seems" enormous to us is actually small from the outside looking in? I saw comments about the comparison of rotation speeds between the two,, but say you were able to stand outside of our universe and look at it in a perspective to where a galaxy was scaled to the size of a hurricane.. How fast would galaxies be perceived to be moving then? Would it change? Basically, would "perception" of time be any different?

 

2nd question. Hurricane eyes follow the greatest source of energy (heat) and need that external source of energy to stay alive. What if galaxies don't need an external energy source to follow because the billions to trillions of stars inside of them collectively gives them all the energy they need to be self-sustaining?

 

3rd and last question. So it's theorized that black holes (if they indeed exist) are formed from collapsing stars. Well galactic centers have the biggest black holes (because theory says they have a lot more to eat). Is it even possible that after the Big Bang, there were at first not galaxies but singular, GINOURMOUS stars, on a scale we just don't see today (I mean WAYYY bigger than the biggest ones we observe now) and when they went supernova, a giant black hole was created (like the ones we see at the center of galaxies) and all the gas, dust, and elements created from the enormous explosion formed a cloud around the giant black hole that slowly organized around it, forming the galaxies with billions to trillions of little stars inside of them we see today? The first question I have off of that is "why wouldn't new ginourmous stars form again in the dust cloud if they were able to form earlier on?", but maybe inside of a forming galaxy, there are factors/conditions that prevent that from being able to happen again and the environment only allows for a bunch of smaller stars to be formed instead.

 

I'm sure these questions are probably idiotic due to scientifically proven facts that I'm not aware of but this is just stuff that randomly pops up in my uneducated head.