ICR Quote Mines

[davidneff]

Hi guys,

 

First please forgive me if this is not the correct place to post this. I haven't found any better place so this is where I'm posting this. If this is not the correct place, moderators please move this.

 

I am typing an article in response to the ICR's article The Vanishing Case for Evolution (I'm a biology major) and he has some interesting "quotes" from Evolutioinists. I am wondering if anyone can give me the full quotes because I'm fairly confident that these are quote mines. You can see the quotes in the URL provided.

[swansont]

Given the prevalence of ellipses, I would be confident as well. But, refreshingly, the citations are actually given for the quotes.

[Phi for All]

Why do you think these quotes are from "Evolutionists"? The few I searched led right back to the ICR or other anti-evolution sites.

[davidneff]

Given the prevalence of ellipses, I would be confident as well. But, refreshingly, the citations are actually given for the quotes.

 

True. At least they have sources. I don't have access to any of their sources and I'm wondering if those that do can give me the context.

[dmaiski]

ive personally grown very tired of arguing with creationists

my personal argument is this:

if you are so certain of creationism, prove it with science

we have plenty of evidence, you don’t have a 5000 year old story book

 

 

 

 

 

 

its pointless to argue against belief, it doesn’t need evidence, it just is

 

 

 

 

[davidneff]

ive personally grown very tired of arguing with creationists

my personal argument is this:

if you are so certain of creationism, prove it with science

we have plenty of evidence, you don't have a 5000 year old story book

 

 

 

 

 

 

its pointless to argue against belief, it doesn't need evidence, it just is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This. They think disproving evolution proves Creation. WRONG on so many levels.

[Phi for All]

The de Beer quote (15) is one that's from a credible source, but was taken from something written in a high school reader and not in a peer-reviewed paper. There's a pretty good debunking here, from a debate the ICR conveniently forgot to mention.

[davidneff]

The de Beer quote (15) is one that's from a credible source, but was taken from something written in a high school reader and not in a peer-reviewed paper. There's a pretty good debunking here, from a debate the ICR conveniently forgot to mention.

 

Thanks for the website link!