Forward time

[swansont]

And that is why they call it an "original idea" . I never said their paper talked about dipoles or monopoles. And I supplied a link once asked.

My point is that another mathmatical field is needed that describes the actions of dark matter and dark energy, this field is described by Ma and Wang which will change the law of conservation of total energy to include the aether of space itself. Remember my criteria, right or wrong is;

 

1). All mass and energy decay into gravitational waves as a point of origin energy transfer with a constant speed, frequency and wavelength, this is the least potential form of energy.

2). A missed law in physics- an increase in wave amplitude is an action of a contact force which requires a reaction, the reaction is gravity.

 

Again, this is an original idea, not copied from Ma or Wang or anyone. I think about things a very long time. Remember, inflation to dark energy has to fit in order for things to be correct.

Funny, by complaining that my concept is not explained in their general relativity math is not a problem for me. We both state that the conservation of energy is violated and they include, mathematically, how dark energy and dark matter are aspects of a process that is also gravitation, in which I agree. What they do not do is explain the mechanism and that is what I do. So your assumptive attach about Ma and Wang not including dipoles and monopoles in the language is really a compliment because you are acknowledging, if I am correct, that my insight is off the charts unbelievable. It's not, I have an ability to conceptualize processes that many do not have. You see, there is one straight forward way to explain everything if only three dimensions exist and I believe I found it.

So all you've done is find a paper that says that they reworked relativity to account for dark matter and dark energy. There's no actual support for your idea, it just had a few words in common. They don't for example, discuss converting mass into gravitational waves, or anything you rely on.

 

This is not an uncommon gambit.

 

Unbelievable, yes, in the sense that I don't believe any of it, because the terminology is made-up, and you haven't shown any prediction that matches with experiment (and it was far too easy for you to backtrack on one prediction that was contradicted by experiment). If, for example, violations of Kepler's law are "common," where are all the observations of this?

[Nobrainer]

My understanding, which I am happy to have corrected, is a fundamental assumption, validated by many, diverse observations, is that the same physical laws apply throughout the universe.

 

Your reference to the principle of locality does not contradict that. We could expand your quote to read "In physics, the principle of locality states that an object is influenced directly, according to the universal laws of physics, only by its immediate surrounds."

 

So either you are misunderstanding what is going on, or you are using local physics laws in a singular way, or I'm thicker than I thought I was.

Here is what I believe to be the mechanism of action of the universe, generating local laws for each discrete piece of mass and energy.

Gravity and magnetism are currently theorized to be static fields. As static fields their mechanism of attraction is different and gravity is extremely weak in comparison.

Consider this; magnetic's attract as a dipole wave alignment between magnetic fields and it is this increase in wave amplitude that shows the mechanism of attraction between "Dipole" magnetics. Since the waves are essentially tied to two ends the alignment is very strong. Now imagine the force carriers (as they are called) with in the wave decay from the poles into irreversible monopole waves given off in all three dimensional directions. By only having one pole, the source and by colliding into each other and aligning, the sources position relative to each other becomes stressed assuming the frequency, speed and wavelength from each generated wave is rigid in relationship to it's source, then a stress or tension builds up between the waves and it travels back to the source. The sources appear to attract each other but the actual mechanism is in response to wave amplitude increase or alignment.

Space appears to be a static field but instead is a continuously generated monopole field, mimicing a static field. This concept explains all that exists with respect to action or forward time.

 

And thus it is an original idea...

Predictions---

The galaxies increasing in acceleration as the constant velosity of space itself pulls the galaxies at increasingly accelerating rates is the biggest prediction, gravitational lensing through empty space is another. Wavefront formation being the force behind holding galaxies together another. Violations of Kepler another.... Some older galaxies may have smaller black holes than younger galaxies as through my claim, black holes constantly give off gravitational energies. If two equal size stars are in a relative equal distance from the earth, one may appear significantly dimmer for no known reason than the other.

 

Now for the common thread between PROFESSOR MA AND WANG'S 2012 new gravity theory and the mechanism of gravitation that I have created.

First a recap

I have stated that the conservation of energy is violated, in other words, total energy is lost. Mass and energy decay into space itself, the gravitational wave. A monopole wave generated from every source creating the actions of space-time. Gravity, I claim is a monopole wave generation by different sources creating a wavefront at the point of wave intersection, this creates an new action where different waves become a larger single wave. This action, I claim, is a contact force and requires a reaction. Think of wavefront formation as the formation of one dipole and the reaction to this dipole wavefront formation created a stress between the sources generating the force of gravity resulting in the sources touching creating the second dipole.

 

Now the new mathmatical Ma-Wang theory states that the conservation of total energy is no longer conserved.. So I ask you... Where does the total mass and energy go? How does it happen? I suggest that I have already explained where it when and how it happens... That is how I own the original idea.

 

It may be a long while before everyone starts to realize that the universe's actions can be explained with the understanding that space itself, created at the big bang continues to be created by each clump of mass and energy as a decay process into the gravitational waves which collide and create wave fronts with the reaction of gravitation. Time, space and gravity are measurements of this forward process as the universe is transitioning from particle to wave.

Edited October 12, 2012 by Nobrainer

[swansont]

Gravity, I claim is a monopole wave generation by different sources creating a wavefront at the point of wave intersection

If it intersects only at point, giving constructive interference, that implies there are areas that are not doing this — the interference is not giving complete constructive interference. And in some places, the interference will be destructive. Yet you continue to ignore this, and claim that there is only constructive interference. How can this be? How can a spherical wave from the sun and one from the earth — which should have opposite concavity — constructively interfere everywhere? Further, and specifically, how does this yield a 1/r^2 force?

 

Now the new mathmatical Ma-Wang theory states that the conservation of total energy is no longer conserved.. So I ask you... Where does the total mass and energy go? How does it happen? I suggest that I have already explained where it when and how it happens... That is how I own the original idea.

It might come as a surprise to you that the paper you keep mentioning does not claim that energy is not conserved. They add in a new term to the energy balance, which has a mean value of zero but which varies with position. IOW, energy is conserved, but there is a new energy term to consider.

 

Further, this has no experimental confirmation, so referring it as if it were truth is premature. Regardless of that, though, this says nothing about the validity of your conjecture. Their paper is not an invitation to simply ignore conservation of energy.

 

It may be a long while before everyone starts to realize that the universe's actions can be explained with the understanding that space itself, created at the big bang continues to be created by each clump of mass and energy as a decay process into the gravitational waves which collide and create wave fronts with the reaction of gravitation. Time, space and gravity are measurements of this forward process as the universe is transitioning from particle to wave.

Funny thing — understanding how space behaves is what (some) scientists are after. One big difference between them and you is that they create actual testable models which make specific predictions, and then test them to see of they are true. What they don't do is disavow part of the model after a failed prediction, e.g. gravity falling off as temperature drops. Actual models generally can't survive such an amputation.

[Nobrainer]

First let's open up a point of contention; I still claim that when energy is removed in a system, gravity changes in relation to e= mc(sq). I totally disagree that gravity does not change, maybe not perceivable in today's abilities but I stand by the current laws. I do see changes with Helium Bose-Enstein condensate that seem to show the odd behavior, this is not a sticking point except to emphasize that I believe the release of the gravitational wave is the reason absolute zero can not be released except when the universe becomes all space.

 

Now for wave behavior, two waves creating one new bigger wave is described by the Huygens principle. It is a form of constructive wave interference, and can be derrived from Maxwell's equations. What the Huygens principle does not say is why there is no reverse wave. Without rehashing the same old thing too much.

The set up of the universe, from the one singularity a continuously generated wave, the fabric of space itself. That wave continues to be generated and align as mass and energy continue to decay. There is no such thing as empty space. Everything is aligning all the time since mass and energy are continuing to add to this generated wave field.

I see, in my mind, how the universe relates to itself, and someone will be stupid enough to use these words against me but I laugh as I write seeing the future.

 

If you considered a dipole magnet you could consider the attraction of the magnetic waves between fixed dipoles a constructive wave interference and by switching the ends the repulsion, a destructive wave interference. You could also consider trying to pull two stuck together magnetics

apart creating a destructive wave interference but the magnetics tendency is a constructive wave interference by nature of dipole field alignment of waves.

Now as the big bang created mass energy and space, space becomes the least potentential form of energy. So when I say that the conservation of total energy is broken it is because under the standard term mass and energy are the only forms of total energy. So by including space itself as a form of energy the new conservation of energy law is

Total energy = mass + energy + space. Ma and Wang also created a hidden variable to understand that nothing can be created or destroyed and we also believe that current understand is incomplete with respect to gravity / general relativity. We are just labeling things differently to some extent. Also my conceptual mechanism accounts for inflation and fheirs does not as far as I can tell.

 

Concerning interference why no destructive? There is distructive interference, all you have to do is jump and disrupt you touching the earth and the earth pulls you back down. Your action is disruptive and the earth's wave and your wave realign to create the constructive interference. like a weak magnet.

 

Now I am going to combine a few man-made ideas to explain the process, bare with me and suspend opinion until you conceptualize the the different concepts converging please.

As an oversimplification think of the wave front created by two ping pong balls held 1/4 inch apart and dropped into still water 6 feet below. As they are dropped into still water the force (change in acceleration) creates two ripples and those two ripples expand, collide and create one bigger ripple. Think of that as a point where waves coverge as 1/2 of two dipoles but the other dipole is separated by two sources, and as Newton shows for every action, wavefront formation there is an equal and opposite reaction since the wavefronts form one dipole the two sources coming together form the other dipole and gravity is the reaction to wavefront formation in the monopole wave emission and wavefront formation example of the reaction to wavefront formation. And the ping pong balls pop up out of the water together....

 

 

I am sorry if I am not clear or if you can not understand my thinking. After college/ post grad - I became self taught and see things differently than current teachings. I also appoligize for the gravity change at zero but I do stand by the change even in current thinking it changes, just not enough to measure until you create a BEC with helium and or hydrogen as examples of the kiss rule.

 

And with respect to forward time, an increase in entropy,

 

I see time as a wave function of decay, as a measure of an overall process in which each piece of mass and energy has a decay rate relationally dependent upon the decay rate of the enviorment. As water evaporation depends upon the degee of surrounding humidity among other things so to does the rate of mass and energy decay involve the density or wave amplitude of the local enviorment of space.

 

 

Although time is relational as a measure of an overall process, it has a beginning middle and end.

One problem is inflation. There excuse is that general relativity allows space to expand at any rate it wants and it can take mass and energy with it. I say BS. The reason I say that is because of all the holes in their understanding such as no explanation for dark matter or dark energy. By understanding the process of the universe and how time relates to the description it becomes obvious that in order for the laws of physics to be consistent even with space itself, time started, not at the big bang but when mass and energy stabolized into forms with the strong, weak and electromagnetic forces and continues to decay in these forms. That is the start of how we measure relational time. Until then the way we unknowingly measure time did not exist.

[Nobrainer]

The ping pong ball experiment is the simplest rear model of all. And it works to show that there's another way to create Rhe force known as gravitation than the currently held belief. I have been over that a few times and you completely ignore it. Funny, I state a new law. I show proof and you keep pressing me with addressing the action and reaction of wavefront formation.

Again take two ping pong balls hold them aix feet above water and keep then 1/4 inch apart abd drop them into the still water. They hit the water, they transfer energy into waves which become one big wave and the ping pong balls react by popping up and touching. This is the reaction to wavefront formation.

Another prediction:

When two galaxies collide and become a newer galaxy the overall mass that is requires to shape the new galaxies will appear to be more than the combined separate total masses, as if extra dark energy was needed.

 

Another prediction,

Dark energy or space-!the gravitational wave pulling on all mass and energy has been around since the beginning of the singularity and is the driving force still today. It caused the big bang and continues to be released from all mass and energy keeping the energy of space constant in all reference frames while space is expanding.

 

 

There is a couple of nice predictions..

[illuusio]

Obviously you Nobrainer suffer from the same space dementia as I do

 

I like your wave theory, partially. Waves and interference are everywhere even within gravitation BUT (and this is big but) waves alone won't do it. Those waves are blown away when two objects interact violently in space. Waves might take part in smaller scale gravitational events like with satellite orbiting Earth and so forth.

 

With bigger events I would count on Magnus effect in ether.

 

Edit: waves and Magnus effect are not exclusive... so what a heck, no buts, I like your wave theory. I do have my own theory as you know but waves fit in nicely.

Edited October 14, 2012 by illuusio

[Nobrainer]

Obviously you Nobrainer suffer from the same space dementia as I do

 

I like your wave theory, partially. Waves and interference are everywhere even within gravitation BUT (and this is big but) waves alone won't do it. Those waves are blown away when two objects interact violently in space. Waves might take part in smaller scale gravitational events like with satellite orbiting Earth and so forth.

 

With bigger events I would count on Magnus effect in ether.

 

Edit: waves and Magnus effect are not exclusive... so what a heck, no buts, I like your wave theory. I do have my own theory as you know but waves fit in nicely.

Thank you- the difference from current thinking and my thinking is that I see the fabric of space as being generated by mass and energy via constant release of the gravitational wave giving space itself a baseline energy everywhere as it expands. Without this understanding the alternative is that space creates energy as it expands and that viiolates the fundamental tenets of man's understanding physics.

 

Here is a quick overview with simplicity.

 

 

    Sometimes it takes a new set of eyes to see the universe differently. I like mysteries and the mystery of the actions of the universe is very intriguing.. By passion I study the deepest of human thought. The Ghost wave theory is a theory of consistent physics laws.

  With respect to the standard theory, I would like to give present to you an overview of the next step in solving the mysteries of the actions of the universe.

 

The Ghost Wave Theory- a theory of consistent laws of physics.

 

A finite singularity held what is today known as mass, energy and space, three forms of existence. I will call everything that was the singularity matter. So mass, energy and space itself are matter. The big bang created all three forms of matter as a critical 100% potential energy particle explosion from the singularity to into a hot monopole soup which cooled into  dipoles creating residual potential energy of mass, energy and space. Space is the least potential energy generated from the big bang creating the aether of space. Here is the revolutionary thinking that changes everything. The process of the monopole gravitational wave cooling created the preservation of unused potential energy by essentially clumping the monopoles together as a reaction to wavefront formation as described by the Huygens Law. With this understanding the Huygens Principle back action becomes the action of translated force if gravitation. As a result time moves forward into the structures of the universe today. All mass and energy clumped  and the monopole waves of gravitation created the forces of strong, weak and electromagnetic forces as the monopoles formed dipoles yet never stopped slowly decaying into monopole waves given off from the dipoles creating a new measurable starting point of space generation from each piece of mass and energy.

       In easy to comprehend terms, a nuclear explosion is a massive energy conversion to a less potential energy form each piece of uranium that did not convert still decays continuing the potential to kinetic energy flow.

      Inflation did not happen, the reason for the appearance of a faster than light development of the universe is the cook, the Betty Crocker of the universe measures the time it takes to bake, not when she mixed the ingredient but when the ingredients started the process of baking. In this case, we measure the start of time differently than the start of space. Space started at the big bang but time started as dipoles formed and mass and energy started to decay as a cohesive process, adding to and increasing space and the total energy of the universe includes space itself. So total energy= potential energy of mass + potential energy of energy + the potential energy of space.

(TE= PEM + PEE + PES)

As the potential energy of mass and energy decrease releasing the monopole gravitational wave, aligning mass and energy through wave synchronization, alignment, space increases. The force of space, dark energy is continuing constantly as a result if mass and energy decreasing.

   Concerning a swimming pool,  on a hot day the humidity increases around the pool as the water in the pool evaporates, decreases.  The process of space generation has a similarity in analogy.

 

    After days of no rain, I notice the lake  level in the neighborhood lake  never changes, a hidden process, of water energy added via an underground spring adds water as the lake water evaporates into humidity. This is a hidden process of energy replacement as energy is transmitted to create humidity. The fish in the lake have no idea the process of energy transfer is taking place with their environment. The fish standard model of the lake creates a stabilizer by thinking water stays in the lake, none out, none in.

    This is the problem with the standard model, we are always looking for the most basic fundamental thing, as a result, we are missing the understanding of the process. Time. Space and gravity are forward actions of this overall process but within the process each piece of mass and energy is it's own Lake, has it's own time, creates it's own laws by this hidden process.

   I have just explained that one hidden process of mass and energy decay into gravitational waves create the actions of time, space and gravity as a continuous generation of the gravitational wave as stars add back the missing gravitational energies. Dark matter and dark energy are actions of space increase and wavefront formations with reactions. Dark energy is a constant force = a decreasing Mass x an increasing Acceleration.

Dark matter is the gravitation of the long wave interference of space itself. Gravity is the reaction to the contact force of wave alignment or amplitude increase of generated waves which result in the masses generating the waves spatially decreasing their distance as a direct result of their waves synchronizing. Time, as we unknowingly, measure it is a function of this process and therefore no inflation took place. The big bang took place with all the laws of physics intact and space at a constant velocity, the time we measure did not start at the big band but once mass and energy stabilized into dipole bonds and the monopole gravitational wave continued to be generated. Relative time and space, gravity, the laws of physics, the constant speed of light are all functions of local control in relationship to the density of generated space and the reactions to wavefront formation.

    So the standard model is a stable yet transitional state of mass and energy a stabilizer of dipole waves which allow life to exist in the lake of the universe.

 

    So in conclusion, two new insights expose a solution to the actions of the universe.

1). All mass and energy decay into gravitational waves, the least potential form of matter.

 

2). Long wavelengths allow of monopole gravitational waves allow the universe to constructively  synchronize space itself resulting in a reaction to synchronization of space, brining mass and energy together as a path of least resistance.

 

The Huygens principle should be the Huygens law.

 

To demonstrate a reaction to wavefront formation take two ping pong balls hold them 1/4 inch apart over still water and drop them. Watch the action as the two waves become one wave and the contact reaction of the ping pong balls popping out of the water and touch.

[illuusio]

 

So in conclusion, two new insights expose a solution to the actions of the universe.

1). All mass and energy decay into gravitational waves, the least potential form of matter.

 

2). Long wavelengths allow of monopole gravitational waves allow the universe to constructively synchronize space itself resulting in a reaction to synchronization of space, brining mass and energy together as a path of least resistance.

 

The Huygens principle should be the Huygens law.

 

To demonstrate a reaction to wavefront formation take two ping pong balls hold them 1/4 inch apart over still water and drop them. Watch the action as the two waves become one wave and the contact reaction of the ping pong balls popping out of the water and touch.

 

So what's the meaning of time itself? Time is man made not physical object, unless you link it with atom clocks

 

Why do you need dark matter or energy?

[Nobrainer]

Time as a relational aspect of the universe? Yes as a comparitive aspect of the overall process of mass and energy decaying thru realease of the gravitational wave, space itself.

The big bang and subsequent remix is like Betty Crocker going to the grocery store and buying the ingredients to make a cake but time for the cake to bake is measured differently and that is when time starts for baking. Once mass and energy cooled and coagulated to form strong, weak and electromagnetic bonds, the gravitational wave continued to be released from all electromagnetic fields and that is the point of when the universe started the time we measure, comparatively, influenced by the amplitude of the surrounding volume of space.

 

The process of waves being generated and synchronizing with other generated waves in a preset big bang direction creates a constant force of wave alignment with existing waves and therefore created the action of dark energy. The Wave alignment of deep space and the reaction to light traveling through it creates the action of dark matter. Both actions are a consequence of mass and energy giving off waves which align. The reaction to generating waves aligning is gravitation. Time and space are an overall measure of the current state of the clock of the universe as mass and energy become all space. The time of decay of individual quanta of mass and energy is governed by the alignment density of space.

[illuusio]

 

 

The process of waves being generated and synchronizing with other generated waves in a preset big bang direction creates a constant force of wave alignment with existing waves and therefore created the action of dark energy. The Wave alignment of deep space and the reaction to light traveling through it creates the action of dark matter. Both actions are a consequence of mass and energy giving off waves which align. The reaction to generating waves aligning is gravitation.

 

So both gravitation and action of dark energy are from same phenomenon, wave aligning?

[Nobrainer]

Yes,

 

Example;

Place two balls of string on fhe ground 10 feet apart and tie the attached strings together then walk away from the balls perpendicular to the line between the balls holding the attached unwinding strings together. Watch what happens, as the two strings unwind the balls of string increase in acceleration as they follow the pulled unwinding strings until they completely unwind and match the velocity of the strings and they also come together as they are unwinding.

 

Discussion;

 

This is a basic but oversimplication of the actions of dark energy and gravity via the gravitational waves continuously generated from all mass and energy. Initially space was created at the big bang and each piece of mass and energy is continually add to space keeping a continually force as mass and energy decrease overall becoming space itself. The nature of universal time is derived from this forward process as an aspect of mass and energy decay. Individual time is based on the actions of individual mass and energy in relation to their individual rate of decay based upon the density of space around the mass and or energy in question.

Edited October 15, 2012 by Nobrainer

[illuusio]

Yes,

 

 

 

Ok then. So action of dark matter is also here on Earth because gravitation is?

[Nobrainer]

Dark matter is the actions of space itself. Space is the continued production of gravitational wave formation creating a stable field that appears to be static but isn't. Dark matter helps to understand the difference, and this is also the reason for the mechanism of gravity, because wavefronts or wave alignment is formed when long waves intersect and form larger wavefronts, an increase in amplitude, but when the two or more waves combine there is an alignment of the masses that originate the waves. Holding a galaxy together as it spins creates a plate- like spinning of spiral arms in coordination with the spin of all the mass, especially the spin of a black hole in the center. As the density of the emitted gravitational waves from spinning black holes sets the pace of the spinning galaxy, in deep space where these waves collide, any energy coming through may be effected also by trying to align while having opposing momentum. Holding a galaxy together, setting the plate-like spin, effecting deeper space and simple gravity are all dark matter actions of the reactions to the action of wavefront formation.

[illuusio]

Dark matter is the actions of space itself. Space is the continued production of gravitational wave formation creating a stable field that appears to be static but isn't. Dark matter helps to understand the difference, and this is also the reason for the mechanism of gravity, because wavefronts or wave alignment is formed when long waves intersect and form larger wavefronts, an increase in amplitude, but when the two or more waves combine there is an alignment of the masses that originate the waves. Holding a galaxy together as it spins creates a plate- like spinning of spiral arms in coordination with the spin of all the mass, especially the spin of a black hole in the center. As the density of the emitted gravitational waves from spinning black holes sets the pace of the spinning galaxy, in deep space where these waves collide, any energy coming through may be effected also by trying to align while having opposing momentum. Holding a galaxy together, setting the plate-like spin, effecting deeper space and simple gravity are all dark matter actions of the reactions to the action of wavefront formation.

 

You think that every wave is going to align? What about destructive outcome of colliding waves?

[Nobrainer]

Yes, all waves align causing wavefront formation.

Take a dipole magnet- think of the poles as ends that give the magnetic field a structure that shows the difference between constructive and destructive interference. Two magnet attraction is constructive interference and two magnetic repulsion is destructive interference as the waves can not align.

Traditionally, There is a medium displacement in the same direction (up-up) in constructive interference and a displacement in the opposite direction (up-down) in destructive interference. This is with free waves, not with dipoles, dipoles are attraction and repulsion, the repulsion is because the waves at full destructive interference and attraction is because the waves are at full constructive interference because the waves are bound to mass at both ends.

 

 

What happens when mass is bound at only one end? Let's look at some odd historical facts about waves.

Remember that as the least potential energy, the gravitational wave will have the longest wavelength that exists. Shorter wavelengths have more energy.

 

 

"A similar theory was worked out mathematically by James Challis from 1859 to 1876. He calculated that the case of attraction occurs if the wavelength is large in comparison with the distance between the gravitating bodies. If the wavelength is small, the bodies repel each other. By a combination of these effects, he also tried to explain all other forces.[18]

 

Criticism: Maxwell objected that this theory requires a steady production of waves, which must be accompanied by an infinite consumption of energy.[16] Challis himself admitted, that he hadn't reached a definite result due to the complexity of the processes.[17]"

 

Reference- http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_explanations_of_gravitation#section_5

 

For this discussion; a monopole wave is a wave that is generated from mass or energy but can not be reabsorbed. It's energy level is below the absorption level.

 

I believe that gravitational waves are monopole constructive interference waves in part because they are long wavelengths and have the ability to constructively fit with one another exactly because the length gives them the ability to correct alignment. The above is a reference to this argument that there are no destructive waves. Back in the 1800's it was thought that the universe was infinite and therefore an infinite amount of energy would have been needed. Since the universe is finite, it has a beginning, that objection is mute.

So if long waves attract bodies together through experiment, and I have proven it to myself, then by a natural function of long waves having the tendency to align there is no destructive wave interference.

 

Exception; when you jump, you are disrupting the tendency for constructive interference (ie destructive interference). Resistance to gravity is disruptive (destructive- like) interference in the sence that the waves are dis- aligning.

 

Since you are especially nice, I figured I would be straight forward and not give elusive answers.

 

Opinion so far?

[illuusio]

Yes, all waves align causing wavefront formation.

Take a dipole magnet- think of the poles as ends that give the magnetic field a structure that shows the difference between constructive and destructive interference. Two magnet attraction is constructive interference and two magnetic repulsion is destructive interference as the waves can not align.

Traditionally, There is a medium displacement in the same direction (up-up) in constructive interference and a displacement in the opposite direction (up-down) in destructive interference. This is with free waves, not with dipoles, dipoles are attraction and repulsion, the repulsion is because the waves at full destructive interference and attraction is because the waves are at full constructive interference because the waves are bound to mass at both ends.

 

 

What happens when mass is bound at only one end? Let's look at some odd historical facts about waves.

Remember that as the least potential energy, the gravitational wave will have the longest wavelength that exists. Shorter wavelengths have more energy.

 

 

"A similar theory was worked out mathematically by James Challis from 1859 to 1876. He calculated that the case of attraction occurs if the wavelength is large in comparison with the distance between the gravitating bodies. If the wavelength is small, the bodies repel each other. By a combination of these effects, he also tried to explain all other forces.[18]

 

Criticism: Maxwell objected that this theory requires a steady production of waves, which must be accompanied by an infinite consumption of energy.[16] Challis himself admitted, that he hadn't reached a definite result due to the complexity of the processes.[17]"

 

Reference- http://en.m.wikipedi...ation#section_5

 

For this discussion; a monopole wave is a wave that is generated from mass or energy but can not be reabsorbed. It's energy level is below the absorption level.

 

I believe that gravitational waves are monopole constructive interference waves in part because they are long wavelengths and have the ability to constructively fit with one another exactly because the length gives them the ability to correct alignment. The above is a reference to this argument that there are no destructive waves. Back in the 1800's it was thought that the universe was infinite and therefore an infinite amount of energy would have been needed. Since the universe is finite, it has a beginning, that objection is mute.

So if long waves attract bodies together through experiment, and I have proven it to myself, then by a natural function of long waves having the tendency to align there is no destructive wave interference.

 

Exception; when you jump, you are disrupting the tendency for constructive interference (ie destructive interference). Resistance to gravity is disruptive (destructive- like) interference in the sence that the waves are dis- aligning.

 

Since you are especially nice, I figured I would be straight forward and not give elusive answers.

 

Opinion so far?

 

I don't buy everything you say. Partially you are (to me) right. Waves are essential in many physical phenomena. But to me, they can't create strong enough pulling force, at least in atomic scale. I'm looking for the theory of everything, gravitation is only one part of it. I see also problems with wave aligning in high velocities, for example when light travels near black hole. Light's path do bend because of gravitation. And you say interfered waves do the trick... Those waves can't always be at proper phase to bend speeding light towards black hole. Sum of all paths of emitted light should be "straight" line.

 

 

 

 

[Nobrainer]

A ray of light traveling straight past a black hole fives off a long wavelength gravitational wave, the black hole producing a long wavelength gravitational field combines with the ray of light's gravitational wave altering, changing the direction of the light by creating an angular momentum on the ray of light through constructively interfering with the generates space between two objects. This follows James Chalis's calculation that long wavelengths attraction occurs because it is an inherent property of long waves generated at equal speeds.

It is an inherent property- long wavelengths = attraction. They have a property to align.

When a wind blows a vibrational rhythm can create a vibrational synchronization creating resonation. If all mass and energy in the universe decay into the same long wavelength initially tied to the big bang as space was created, synchronizing with all other space, clumping mass and energy through vibrational wave synchronization creating weak dipoles from a wavefront to two or more separate wave generators and the attraction between them is uniquely like the other dipole is split between the different masses, and the mass dipole is clumped together.

So mechanically, I believe this works by experiment too.

 

On a side note, I am talking about the creation of space itself being generated into the combined total of all space, generated past and present. So with a ray of light, a small amount of medium is being generated into the very dense fabric of space itself, of course the light will bend, it has no choice but to be effected by this dense fabricated field. The photon's small generated field has to align with the greater field of a black hole, or any observer and the photon, like a camellion, adapts to the greater field, and thus this is the reason that the speed of light is always constant. It is also responsible for the gravitational effect, relative space, relative time (density of the density of the baseline field/ /acceleration effecting decay rates), the expansion of the universe, the difference in strength of gravitation, a by-product of electromagnetic fields. It smells a litle like, it tastes a lot like ---- the theory of everything--- watch out! Don't step in it... You never know...

Edited October 16, 2012 by Nobrainer

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A ray of light traveling straight past a black hole fives off a long wavelength gravitational wave, the black hole producing a long wavelength gravitational field combines with the ray of light's gravitational wave altering, changing the direction of the light by creating an angular momentum on the ray of light through constructively interfering with the generates space between two objects. This follows James Chalis's calculation that long wavelengths attraction occurs because it is an inherent property of long waves generated at equal speeds.

It is an inherent property- long wavelengths = attraction. They have a property to align.

 

 

What causes that angular momentum when waves interact?

[Nobrainer]

In the case I was describing, you have a black hole with a strong gravitational field being given off and a ray of light. a photon, traveling in a straight line past it outside the event horizon. The decaying gravitational waves, which have been forming with space in the direction it is traveling enters a space that is forming wavefronts from the black hole abd therefore the photon's field combines with the black holes generated field abd the two fields together weakly effect the angulation of the photon's path. It is the tendency of waves to constructively interfere while traveling through a field. Too close and the photon!s complete field is aligned abd the photon is absorbed as the photon abd the black hole become one dipole a d the wavefront formation becomes the other. Wavefront formation plus objects connected by gravity becomes a weak dipole within space itself.

 

The momentum of the photon outside of the event horizon creates a form of resistance to constructive interference related directly to the size of generates gravitational fields creating the angular momentum.

 

I have been waiting for the next question, you are almost there.

 

Give up?

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In the case I was describing, you have a black hole with a strong gravitational field being given off and a ray of light. a photon, traveling in a straight line past it outside the event horizon. The decaying gravitational waves, which have been forming with space in the direction it is traveling enters a space that is forming wavefronts from the black hole abd therefore the photon's field combines with the black holes generated field abd the two fields together weakly effect the angulation of the photon's path. It is the tendency of waves to constructively interfere while traveling through a field.

 

Yes, but what's the case with photon's field combines with the black holes field? What causes this combinement? Any mechanism there?

[Nobrainer]

I quoted you from James Challis in the 1800's

"He calculated that the case of attraction occurs if the wavelength is large in comparison with the distance between the gravitating bodies".

Reference- http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_explanations_of_gravitation#section_5

 

Large wavelengths = attraction gravity waves are generated by the photon and by the black hole. They inherently create alignments by being large so they can rearrang into constructive waves easier than destructive waves by being long and large.

 

So the photon is giving off energy...

Your next question is; what don't we see a decrease in the photons energy over distance? Are you with me yet?

 

 

also with the same reference;

"Robert Hooke speculated in 1671 that gravitation is the result of all bodies emitting waves in all directions through the aether. Other bodies, which interchange with these waves, move in the direction of the source of the waves. Hooke saw an analogy to the fact that small objects on a disturbed surface of water move to the center of the disturbance.[17]"

 

Man has been trying to make a non action universe, for ever looking for a fundamental static substance, an Atom, a proton, a quark, a boson and eventually will realize that the process of an action of decay does not allow even a field to be permanently static, only transitionally static.

Edited October 16, 2012 by Nobrainer

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Could you please answer to this question (one that I asked earlier) "Yes, but what's the case with photon's field combines with the black holes field? What causes this combinement? Any mechanism there? "

[Nobrainer]

I have answered it. The principle is the Huygen's- Fresnel principle. Huygens ignored this gravitational mechanism of his own 1/2 of the principle, the reaction to waves forming wavefronts and the kickback. .

The photon (electromagnetic field) is emitting a low density long wavelength gravitational wave field which is in turn colliding with the black hole's emitted three dimensional high density monopole gravitational wavefield and as the photon's gravitational wave combines with the high density monopole gravitational wavefront in which the wavefronts then create a stress back to the photon and changes the position of the photon. This is gravitation, the force of gravity. The photon and the black hole's emitted waves are of the same wavelength. There are two types of wave interference, constructive and destructive wave interference. So the constructive mechanism is a contact force where long waves adapt and align with other long waves increasing the amplitude. It is a collision with the path of least resistance of long wavelength waves correcting to overlap the gravitational waves from the black hole. It is a physical alignment of waves and by the nature of the shape, they align because it is least resistant to constructively align. So again, it is a physical alignment for wave overlap by the nature of the structure of emitted long waves of both the photon and the black hole that allow for this alignment. It is preferred over destructive wave alignment.. Initially created at the big bang as a wavefront of space itself.

There is a whole new world of wave action once you understand that wave alignment is a contact force.

As a contact force, Newton's laws of motion are followed and for every action there is an equal and opposite collinear reaction. So again, the very nature of wave alignment short vs long with monopole generated waves created destructive or constructive wave interference. With dipole magnetic attraction, when two magnetics attract both magnetic fields want to be at there lowest energy state and therefore overlap and align causing the spins to stay in the same position north to south, current physics calls this an energy exchange, which is true it is, but that is not what is drawing the magnetics together. It is field orientation that is the driving force in both cases. With gravitational waves field orientation is physically limited by the energy within the field. Higher energy more destructive, but there are no high energy gravitational waves so the two dimensional fields, being given off are all long waves of the same quality.

Does that answer it?

Edited October 16, 2012 by Nobrainer

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I have answered it. The principle is the Huygen's- Fresnel principle. Huygens ignored this gravitational mechanism of his own 1/2 of the principle, the reaction to waves forming wavefronts and the kickback. .

The photon (electromagnetic field) is emitting a low density long wavelength gravitational wave field which is in turn colliding with the black hole's emitted three dimensional high density monopole gravitational wavefield and as the photon's gravitational wave combines with the high density monopole gravitational wavefront in which the wavefronts then create a stress back to the photon and changes the position of the photon. This is gravitation, the force of gravity. The photon and the black hole's emitted waves are of the same wavelength. There are two types of wave interference, constructive and destructive wave interference. So the constructive mechanism is a contact force where long waves adapt and align with other long waves increasing the amplitude. It is a collision with the path of least resistance of long wavelength waves correcting to overlap the gravitational waves from the black hole. It is a physical alignment of waves and by the nature of the shape, they align because it is least resistant to constructively align. So again, it is a physical alignment for wave overlap by the nature of the structure of emitted long waves of both the photon and the black hole that allow for this alignment. It is preferred over destructive wave alignment.. Initially created at the big bang as a wavefront of space itself.

There is a whole new world of wave action once you understand that wave alignment is a contact force.

As a contact force, Newton's laws of motion are followed and for every action there is an equal and opposite collinear reaction. So again, the very nature of wave alignment short vs long with monopole generated waves created destructive or constructive wave interference. With dipole magnetic attraction, when two magnetics attract both magnetic fields want to be at there lowest energy state and therefore overlap and align causing the spins to stay in the same position north to south, current physics calls this an energy exchange, which is true it is, but that is not what is drawing the magnetics together. It is field orientation that is the driving force in both cases. With gravitational waves field orientation is physically limited by the energy within the field. Higher energy more destructive, but there are no high energy gravitational waves so the two dimensional fields, being given off are all long waves of the same quality.

Does that answer it?

 

Not really. What are those waves and how do they do that aligning? One other thing bothers me. How photon emits long wavelength waves even gravitational?

 

 

 

[Nobrainer]

I have explained their physical process of alignment is the direct result of waves of long length physically, mechanically bump and rearrange, read the quote.

 

As a reminder James Chalis's theory on gravitation was based upon the observation that generated Long waves attract other objects that also generate long waves.

 

 

 

The rest of the mechanism is just speculation, photons, fields, (magnetic field decay) decay through change in momentum interaction within the photon clouds ( spin interactions) into gravitons which bind permenently into a wave of used up energy driven initally from the big bang and now through the process of expansion (negative energy) the overall wavefront force following the density dependent force of wavefront formation. I believe any other questions would be a repeat now.

Edited October 17, 2012 by Nobrainer