Freeman Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 OK, so I have several questions... First, a differential is a tangent to the curve and the integral is the area between the curve, X axis, and differentials...right? Second, if I have [math]y=mX^n + b[/math] it would be: [math]y=(mn)X^{n-1}[/math] for a differential, right? And [math]y=(m/n)X^{n+1} + b[/math] for an integral...right?!
fuhrerkeebs Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Actually the integral would be y=mxn+1/(n+1)+b
MandrakeRoot Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 I think with integral you mean primitive here ! Mandrake
Dave Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 OK' date=' so I have several questions... First, a differential is a tangent to the curve and the integral is the area between the curve, X axis, and differentials...right? Second, if I have [math']y=mX^n + b[/math] it would be: [math]y=(mn)X^{n-1}[/math] for a differential, right? And [math]y=(m/n)X^{n+1} + b[/math] for an integral...right?! Remember that you need to get your notation right. [math] y = mx^n + b[/math] implies that [math]\tfrac{dy}{dx} = mnx^{n-1}[/math], but it certainly does not imply that [math]y = mnx^{n-1}[/math].
matt grime Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 They arent' differentials either. Differentials are something else beyond the topic of this question.
MandrakeRoot Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 Yes indeed, the notation is rather sloppy. It would be better to write y(X), y'(X) and Y(X) for example (and indicating the domain and range of these functions !) Mandrake
CPL.Luke Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 for y=mx +b couldn't you take a derivative of it and get y'=m+b this being a constant number it would just tell you that the rate of change is zero right? ( also shouldn't you never see y=mx^n +b as y=mx+b is a way of writing a linear equation (slope intercept form))
bloodhound Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 if y =mx + b , then y'=m y'=0 iff y = constant.
JaKiri Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 for y=mx +b couldn't you take a derivative of it and get y'=m+b this being a constant number it would just tell you that the rate of change is zero right? db/dx = 0.
CPL.Luke Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 wups yeah your right it would be y'=m but the rest of my statement would be right correct? edit** I was not trying to say that y'=0 but rather the change in the expression is zero.
CPL.Luke Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 sorry just my bad wording. the way I learned derivatives was that they represented the rate of change in an expression. its just my way of thinking about it.
Dave Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 Well, they do represent rates of change.. it's just I'm a little confused to what the question actually is.
CPL.Luke Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 that you could actually take a derivative of y=mx+b it just wouldn't be of use
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