Notexceling Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 I believe I have answered your question numerous times. I am not dismissing any of Cantors phenomenal work. The infinity your quoting is still within the confounds of the number 1. Again, 1 explains it has an Infinite amount of possibilities within itself (decimals, fractions etc) even though it has a bound and an end, a 100% complete value. It also explains the infinite possiblities by reproducing itself. It is illogical to think Absolute Infinity is within the restrictions of mathematics. Wouldn't it be beyond our numerical values (1), our universal laws(+|-), our time and space? I'm showing you an equation that is trying to justify beyond Cantor. The Absolute Infinity that can never have boundaries. 1+= ∞ outside of our (+|-) or (1) Cantors work has just been mislabeled as infinity, it is actually just the number 1. Literally think outside the box.
ydoaPs Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I believe I have answered your question numerous times. I am not dismissing any of Cantors phenomenal work. The infinity your quoting is still within the confounds of the number 1. Even countable infinities cardinally dominate 1.
ydoaPs Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 How does 1, then, come in different sizes? In what sense can something cardinally dominate itself? If a=b, then it is not the case that a>b.
Notexceling Posted November 9, 2012 Author Posted November 9, 2012 1 does not come in different sizes. The infinite possibilities with the use of or within the number 1 comes in different sizes.
ydoaPs Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 1 does not come in different sizes. Infinity does.
Notexceling Posted November 9, 2012 Author Posted November 9, 2012 Infinity does. Infinity is within 1.
ydoaPs Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Infinity is within 1. Which infinity? There are infinitely many sizes of infinites.
Notexceling Posted November 12, 2012 Author Posted November 12, 2012 Which infinity? There are infinitely many sizes of infinites. Any infinity that can be calculated is subject to the number 1 in one way or another. Name me 1 infinity amongst the many sizes of Infinity (besides absolute infinity) that is not a Part of 1?
ydoaPs Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Any infinity that can be calculated is subject to the number 1 in one way or another. Name me 1 infinity amongst the many sizes of Infinity (besides absolute infinity) that is not a Part of 1? All of them. You've not demonstrated that any infinity is part of 1.
Notexceling Posted November 16, 2012 Author Posted November 16, 2012 All of them. You've not demonstrated that any infinity is part of 1. Do I really need to explain it? Cantor showed infinity with fractions, decimal points or parts of 1. Again I ask how can the true absolute infinity be within mathematics that is restricted by 1 and governing laws?
ydoaPs Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Do I really need to explain it? You're on a science forum, so yes. Cantor showed infinity with fractions, decimal points or parts of 1. No, he didn't. Oh, by the way, I actually get paid to do philosophy in this area. Try actually reading Cantor. Again I ask how can the true absolute infinity be within mathematics that is restricted by 1 and governing laws? There is no "true absolute infinity". In fact, there is at minimum a countably infinitely many sizes of infinity. All of which cardinally dominate 1. Which you'd know, if you'd have read the guy you keep namedropping.
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