Thoughts On Supreme Truth

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In Hinduism there is this concept called Brahman ( not to confused with Braahman a Hindu priest), the all pervading truth ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman ). It sounds very similar to quantum mechanical concepts. Also, many physicsts like Schrodinger have said to have gotten inspiration from this concept. Thoughts on this ?

[John Cuthber]

Can you do maths with it and predict real world things like the wavelengths of light emitted by hydrogen atoms in an arc lamp?

If not then the resemblance to QM is a superficial coincidence.

[ydoaPs]

It sounds very similar to quantum mechanical concepts.

 

Not really at all.

[immortal]

In Hinduism there is this concept called Brahman ( not to confused with Braahman a Hindu priest), the all pervading truth ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman ).

 

It is not in Hinduism, it is a vague word representing a collection of different sects. Its actually in the Vedas and the Upanishads and they are not called as Hindus instead they are called as Aryans and this term is not to be confused with the Aryan Race which is completely different.

 

Aryan /ˈɛərjən/ is an English language loanword derived from the Sanskrit ārya ('Noble'). In Sanskrit and related Indic languages, Arya refers to one who does Noble deeds.

It sounds very similar to quantum mechanical concepts.

 

The ancients knew nothing about modern science and its silly to find similarities with modern scientific concepts without distinguishing the epistemology of these two different concepts. The concept of Brahman and quantum mechanical concepts are based on a completely different epistemology. The only point where this concept can fill a gap in our knowledge is when the concept of an 'Observer' arises in some of the interpretations of quantum mechanics.

 

Its an idealistic philosophical concept and it takes some effort to understand it.

 

 

Idealism in Ancient philosophy

The oldest reference to Idealism in Hindu texts is in Purusha Sukta of the Rig Veda. This sukta espouses panentheism by presenting cosmic being Purusha as both pervading all universe and yet being transcendent to it.^[1] Absolute idealism can be seen in Chāndogya Upaniṣad, where things of the objective world like the five elements and the subjective world such as will, hope, memory etc. are seen to be emanations from the Self.^[2]

 

 

 

Many people fail to understand this concept clearly.

 

7 But frail indeed are those rafts of sacrifices, conducted by eighteen persons, upon whom rests the inferior work; therefore they are destructible. Fools who rejoice in them as the Highest Good fall victims again and again to old age and death.

 

8 Fools, dwelling in darkness, but wise in their own conceit and puffed up with vain scholarship, wander about, being afflicted by many ills, like blind men led by the blind.

 

9 Children, immersed in ignorance in various ways, flatter themselves, saying: We have accomplished life's purpose. Because these performers of karma do not know the Truth owing to their attachment, they fall from heaven, misery— stricken, when the fruit of their work is exhausted.

 

10 Ignorant fools, regarding sacrifices and humanitarian works as the highest, do not know any higher good. Having enjoyed their reward on the heights of heaven, gained by good works, they enter again this world or a lower one.

 

11 But those wise men of tranquil minds who lives in the forest on alms, practising penances appropriate to their stations of life and contemplating such deities as Hiranyagarbha, depart, freed from impurities, by the Path of the Sun, to the place where that immortal Person dwells whose nature is imperishable.

 

- Mundaka Upanishad

 

 

The Vedic Aryans were a Sun-god worshipping religion, they worshipped the holistic Sun-god and all gods reside in him and form his body and he shows the path to immortality. These gods are not sky gods instead they exist in the microcosm(psychological) as well as in the macrocosm(physical world). This concept has nothing to do with the empirical sciences.

 

 

Also, many physicsts like Schrodinger have said to have gotten inspiration from this concept. Thoughts on this ?

 

Schroedinger didn't go too far.

[chandragupta]

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Can you do maths with it and predict real world things like the wavelengths of light emitted by hydrogen atoms in an arc lamp?

If not then the resemblance to QM is a superficial coincidence.

 

I agree with you. At present it is impossible to do maths with the idea of god. Maths is a invention of man's mind. There is no reason not to be hopeful that sometimes in future man will invent a new kind of maths which will enable him to do maths with the idea of god. Till then the idea of god will merely be a hypothesis with no maths & no predictions. If god is an entity with existence he will be found in future empirically with the help of THIS NEW YET TO BE INVENTED MATHS (re. this god) , YET TO BE MADE PREDICTIONS (re. this god) & YET TO BE PERFORMED SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS (re. this god) to the satisfaction of all & then he will be available to all just like sun or moon or computer or television. Till then he will merely be an speculation for many of us. Your thoughts?

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I agree with you. At present it is impossible to do maths with the idea of god. Maths is a invention of man's mind. There is no reason not to be hopeful that sometimes in future man will invent a new kind of maths which will enable him to do maths with the idea of god. Till then the idea of god will merely be a hypothesis with no maths & no predictions. If god is an entity with existence he will be found in future empirically with the help of THIS NEW YET TO BE INVENTED MATHS (re. this god) , YET TO BE MADE PREDICTIONS (re. this god) & YET TO BE PERFORMED SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS (re. this god) to the satisfaction of all & then he will be available to all just like sun or moon or computer or television. Till then he will merely be an speculation for many of us. Your thoughts?

 

I think your right. These ideas can't be proven for now.