faked moon landing?

[Semjase]

The whole moon landings were faked. I've got

the book Moonfire by Norman Mailer, there's

no blast crater or disturbance of moon dust

under the lander no a speck of dust on the

lander at all. This is a coffee table sized book

with large glossy pictures of the entire

Apollo 11 landing. A lot of the shadows were

completely impossible with parallel sunlight

cast down on the moon surface.

 

Here's some web sites that do a thorough investigation

 

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

 

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

 

http://batesmotel.8m.com/

[Phi for All]

Every single scrap of "moon landing hoax" has been thoroughly debunked by the best in the business. Ultimately, what you're suggesting is that they spent more time and money on a hoax than it would have cost to actually go to the moon.

 

Get real.

[Bignose]

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

 

just as a counter for anyone who comes upon this thread, the above is a web site that does a pretty good job refuting the hoax claims (see not just this page, but several others by this same author). I think it is important to get that in this same thread so that there are counter arguments made.

[Ringer]

And this

[tomgwyther]

This one always gives me a chuckle!

 

Edited November 6, 2012 by tomgwyther

[JohnStu]

Moon was fake but keep it a secret, ha.

[ACG52]

On thing I've never heard from a hoax nut is, why?

 

Why fake it? The video was right on. We had the rocket, we had spent ten years developing the equipment, We could get the whole mess up to near earth orbit and keep them there, so why fake it? Once you're in orbit, the hardest part is over.

Edited November 6, 2012 by ACG52

[Phi for All]

Semjase, in another thread you claim to have been contacted by aliens. Could you have them check for footprints up there to put this question to rest?

[Semjase]

According to my references on the Meier contacts

with Semjase I have the following excerpt concerning the moon landing -

 

Faked Apollo moon landing on July 20, 1969.

The faked moon landing of 1969 was done for political

reasons to overtake the Russians who were on the

verge of being able to land on the moon, after this

up to 1972 there were 5 actual moon landings.

 

My connection to aliens is indirect, I have a channel

to the Alien God the creator of structures of the

mechanics of our reality out of the properties

of nothing, which he has confirmed through

advanced time travel capabilities.

[swansont]

[ydoaPs]

The whole moon landings were faked. I've got

the book Moonfire by Norman Mailer, there's

no blast crater or disturbance of moon dust

under the lander no a speck of dust on the

lander at all. This is a coffee table sized book

with large glossy pictures of the entire

Apollo 11 landing. A lot of the shadows were

completely impossible with parallel sunlight

cast down on the moon surface.

 

Here's some web sites that do a thorough investigation

 

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

 

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

 

http://batesmotel.8m.com/

 

 

If the moon landings were fake, how did our stuff get up there? We can bounce lasers off of the retro-reflectors and we can take pictures of the lunar landers.

[Greg H.]

I'm just going to leave this here.

 

http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

 

Enjoy.

[Spyman]

Apollo 11 Moon Landing Site Seen in Unprecedented Detail

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera snapped its best look yet of the Apollo 11 landing site on the moon. The image, which was released on March 7, 2012, even shows the remnants of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin's historic first steps on the surface around the Lunar Module.

CREDIT: NASA/GSFC/Arizona State University

http://www.space.com/14874-apollo-11-landing-site-moon-photo.html

[Semjase]

This image obviously looks retouched, get the book Moonfire which has

the best images available from any moon landing and judge the

evidence for yourself.

[ydoaPs]

This image obviously looks retouched

 

What indicators of photo manipulation are there in this image to make you think that?

[Phi for All]

Faked Apollo moon landing on July 20, 1969.

The faked moon landing of 1969 was done for political

reasons to overtake the Russians who were on the

verge of being able to land on the moon, after this

up to 1972 there were 5 actual moon landings.

If the Russians "were on the verge of being able to land on the moon", why have they still not done so? They're still planning to go, but not until at least 2030.

 

And are you truly trying to sell the idea that Apollo 11 was faked, but Apollo 12 four months later was real? The Soviets had a catastrophic failure of their N1 rocket just two weeks before Apollo 11 landed, an explosion that took out their whole launch complex. Why on earth would we risk faking Apollo 11 when there was no longer any competition from the Soviets, especially since you concede that Apollo 12 four months later was real?

 

My connection to aliens is indirect, I have a channel

to the Alien God the creator of structures of the

mechanics of our reality out of the properties

of nothing, which he has confirmed through

advanced time travel capabilities.

Oh.

 

< cricket, cricket >

 

So, he went back to July 20, 1969 and saw bupkis?

[ewmon]

The faked moon landing of 1969 was done for political

reasons to overtake the Russians who were on the

verge of being able to land on the moon,

So, why didn't our arch-enemy, the Russians, use their radar units to show that the US didn't send anything to the Moon in 1969?

 

[sarcasm]Aha! They were in on the hoax too, right? And the whole Cold War was a 24-year hoax as the convincing backstory of why they didn't reveal our Moon-landing hoax. The US bribed Leonid Brezhnev with chocolate bonbons, but they were really chocolate-covered Egyptian cotton balls that ... oh no, wait a minute, that was in "Catch-22" written by Joseph Heller ... um, yeah, right ... well, he was born to a Russian couple who immigrated to the US ... and uh ... the book was a backstory to refute Brezhnev's complaints that we had cheated him ... and, uh ... Heller once worked alongside Mary Higgins Clark, who once worked as a stewardess for Pan-Am Airlines, and this whole scheme was her idea ... uh, yeah, yeah ... she was born to immigrants from Ireland, and that of course, was the secret connection to Jack Kennedy who was the US president when he announced that the US would put a hoax man on the Moon before the end of the decade.[/sarcasm]

 

 

Everything from Egyptian cotton balls to immigrants from Ireland is true.

 

Edited November 6, 2012 by ewmon

[Semjase]

I stand by the evidence, the problem I have with the reconnaissance photo is that

base of the lander is shown containing all white pixels considering the base

of the lander isn't white you would expect some grey detail considering the resolution

of the rest of the image it shows no detail of the base of the lander at all. The center

black pixels are the only details of the base of the lander.

[iNow]

Summarized: Lalalalalala... I can't hear you, I'm gonna believe whatever I want despite what the evidence shows... Lalalalala.

[John Cuthber]

According to my references on the Meier contacts

with Semjase I have the following excerpt concerning the moon landing -

 

Faked Apollo moon landing on July 20, 1969.

The faked moon landing of 1969 was done for political

reasons to overtake the Russians who were on the

verge of being able to land on the moon, after this

up to 1972 there were 5 actual moon landings.

 

My connection to aliens is indirect, I have a channel

to the Alien God the creator of structures of the

mechanics of our reality out of the properties

of nothing, which he has confirmed through

advanced time travel capabilities.

2 points,

First, as has been pointed out, the Russians must have been part of any fake landing.

It would have been trivial to point a radio telescope at the moon and not get a signal from the lunar landing party.

As you say, they were bitter enemies of the US so they would have published such an observation loudly and clearly.

 

Second, have you sought treatment for your delusional state?

[Greg H.]

Threads like this make me ask why we can only give out 1 neg rep a day. Can I have a few more just for the next 24 hours?

[Moontanman]

Threads like this make me ask why we can only give out 1 neg rep a day. Can I have a few more just for the next 24 hours?

 

 

Neg rep should be limited to one an hour...

[Phi for All]

I have to say this is the first time I've seen someone who thought the first landing was faked but the next one four months later was real. This makes it so much easier to debunk, so props for that.

[Semjase]

First point read " The day after Roswell" by Col. Philip J. Corso

you might learn something

 

Here's excerpt from the book

 

"The KGB and the CIA weren't really adversaries everybody thought them

to be . They spied on each other, but all practical purposes, and also because each

agency had thoroughly penetrated the other, they behaved just like the same

organization. They were all professional spies in a single extended agency

playing the same intelligence game and trafficking in information. Information is

power to be used. You don't simply give it away to your governments political

leadership, whether it's the Republicans, the Tories,or the Communist, just

because they tell you to.You can't trust politicians, the politicians, but you

can trust other spies. At least that's what spies believe, so their primary loyalty

is to their own group and other spies playing the same game. The CIA, KGB, British Secret

Service, and a whole host of other foreign intelligence agencies were loyal to themselves

and to the profession first and to their respective governments last.

That's why one reasons we in the military knew that KGB leadership, not the

communist Party officers who were only inside for political reasons, were keeping

as much information from the Soviet government as the CIA was keeping from our

government. Professional spy organizations like the CIA and the KGB tend to exist

only to preserve themselves, and that's why neither the U.S. military nor the

Russian military trusted them If you look at how the great spy wars of the

Cold War played out you'll see how the KGB and the CIA acted like one organization:

lots of professional courtesy, lots of shared information to make sure nobody got

fired, and a few human sacrifices now and then just to keep everybody honest.

But came down to loyalty, the CIA was loyal to the KGB and vice versa.

I believe they had a rationale for what they did. I know that they thought the

rest of us were to stupid to keep the world safe and by sharing information

they kept us out of a nuclear war. I believe this because I knew enough

KGB agents during my time and got enough bits and pieces of information off the record

to give me a picture of the Soviet Union during the 1950's and 1960's that's

a very different from what you read on the front page of the New York Times."

 

I don't get fantasy information from the channel that I have.

[iNow]

Books aren't peer reviewed. They don't necessarily contain truth. That's why we also have books that contain stories of wizards and dragons and elves.