The election and my faith in humanity

[CaptainPanic]

I don't know about where you live but in my state if a State Trooper pulls you over you better have some ID, both identification and some idea of what is going on...

I live in the Netherlands. Where I live, the police need a reason to pull you over. As far as I know, if they cannot state a reason why they pull you over (i.e. which law you broke), they cannot ask even for ID.

 

So... If a Dutch policeman pulls you over you better have some ID, and they (i.e. the police) better have some idea of what is going on...

[Phi for All]

I don't live in Colorado, so I don't know all the details, but it just seems a little dishonest to tie education to pot use.

First, the first $40M in taxes collected don't just go to general education, it will go to our public school capital construction assistance fund. The money will build new schools and renovate old ones rather than be used for teaching (a fine point, but one that was made clear to voters; this is for education infrastructure).

 

Second, and I think more importantly, this will allow us to grow industrial hemp. I would think most of the US should be thanking us for this. When we can show that it's really easy to tell the difference between cannabis for recreation and hemp for rope and oil and paper and biofuel, I don't think the Feds can get away with busting us for industrial use. This will force them to reconsider the use of hemp as a SMART way to grow our economy using sustainable, practical means.

 

And third, of course, we'll be saving law enforcement from having to conduct and prosecute on the 10,000 yearly cases of marijuana possession that clog the system and make it harder to investigate more meaningful crimes. All the laws that govern alcohol use will apply to marijuana. The only thing I'm unclear on is how they'll be rating "under the influence" when it comes to driving impaired. Blood alcohol levels are fairly well understood, and afaik before legalization if you registered ANY traces of marijuana on a roadside test you would be arrested. I don't know if they really have an acceptable level of cannabis intoxication the way they do alcohol.

[moth]

Another reason for optimism may be the poor returns of candidate wins for citizen's united money, or at least the 300+ million squandered on karl rove.

There's some numbers on Open Secrets site:

Minus the millions spent against the president, American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS were invested heavily in congressional elections, spending the most in Senate races.

Including Obama and Romney, American Crossroads targeted 20 federal candidates, while Crossroads GPS focused on 27.

 

By our calculations, American Crossroads came out on the winning side in six out of 19 races, with one still too close to call -- that's about 30 percent.

GPS did even worse, going with the candidate who would ultimately prevail in just six out of 26 contests, again with one still undecided, giving it a success rate of about 23 percent.

[imatfaal]

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Moderator Note

Let's keep on topic please. I have split off Ander's abortion branch to a new thread.