Semjase Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Their seems to be two possible arguments for potential energy mass equivalency. 1. An electric field has no mass and therefore has no mass energy equivalency, but when the potential field does work it creates new mass. 2. An electric field has mass, and therefore it transfers it's it's mass to the particle it's doing work to. A way to test for this would be to take an electron positron pair and separate them by a distance in an electrically neutral environment and let them accelerate towards each other and testing for a mass change with a magnetic field. This brings up a further question, would a change in electric field strength without the magnetic component would be felt instantaneously regardless of distance? In the case of the electron positron pair test if number 2 was the case, their mass would have to remain constant because the field mass and the electron mass make up the entire mass of the electron. Can we reach a consensus on this?
Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Their seems to be two possible arguments for potential energy mass equivalency. 1. An electric field has no mass and therefore has no mass energy equivalency, but when the potential field does work it creates new mass. 2. An electric field has mass, and therefore it transfers it's it's mass to the particle it's doing work to. A way to test for this would be to take an electron positron pair and separate them by a distance in an electrically neutral environment and let them accelerate towards each other and testing for a mass change with a magnetic field. This brings up a further question, would a change in electric field strength without the magnetic component would be felt instantaneously regardless of distance? In the case of the electron positron pair test if number 2 was the case, their mass would have to remain constant because the field mass and the electron mass make up the entire mass of the electron. Can we reach a consensus on this? Hi, It's exactly A very good point of view. The English version : http://phys.org/news/2012-11-real-mystery-quantum-mechanics-physicists.html The French version : http://www.sur-la-toile.com/discussion-240826-1-La-lumiere-a-la-lumiere-de-la-mecanique-quantique.html In fact : The Onde/Wave, is the field of particle. and the field of particle (static mouvement), create this Onde. In the following, we only have one's own entity, Because the Field and the Particule are The Same One ! This mean, Each of Those Case depends on, how long (time), and how do you look the While (distance/direction), and especially which alternance in sight do you pointer (aim) !! This is my Perso-deduction since a lot of Months ! Step by step, we will get it, and above all, I say the same "report" in France since January 2012, without changing One Sentence. _____________________ for fun : A Strange Beautiful Picture of decoherence from Benoit Mandelbrot at this link : ( This French Link, is the Fruit of the Very Long Story ) Picture-Link : http://www.sur-la-toile.com/discussion-238257-130-Le-big-bang-peut-il-reculer-...html _____________________ After-specified the pattern of mine, try to Explain more or less the "Dual Onde Story" above. Cordially. Edited November 15, 2012 by Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU
swansont Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 ! Moderator Note Arnaud Antoine ANDRIEU, this looks to be hijacking and quite likely a candidate for a discussion speculations. Answers to questions should be based on accepted science, not your own formulation ————— Their seems to be two possible arguments for potential energymass equivalency.1. An electric field has no mass and therefore has no mass energy equivalency, but when the potential field does work it creates new mass.2. An electric field has mass, and therefore it transfers it's it's mass to the particle it's doing work to. Electric fields are not actually real. That is enough reason to say they have no mass.
Semjase Posted November 15, 2012 Author Posted November 15, 2012 An electric field is something but not actually real, what is it?
swansont Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 An electric field is something but not actually real, what is it? It's a conceptual construct to help explain how charged particles behave.
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