Semjase Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Reality is digital, on the the large scale it appears analog, but on the atomic scale it loses it's resolution and becomes digital. This supported on the atomic scale by the fact that only certain orbital sizes are allowed for an electron around a nucleus. Velocity, space, time,distance and mass are all digital, this is backed by the fact that all these have to be measured in certain amounts and represented by a number. But certain amounts represented by numbers also have amounts between these certain amounts which are represented by irrational numbers. Irrational numbers are undefined and therefore these irrational amounts cannot exist which leads to a digital reality.
swansont Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Reality is digital, on the the large scale it appears analog, but on the atomic scale it loses it's resolution and becomes digital. This supported on the atomic scale by the fact that only certain orbital sizes are allowed for an electron around a nucleus. Distance isn't quantized in orbitals, it's the energy and angular momentum. Quantized ≠ digital. They don't mean the same thing. Velocity, space, time,distance and mass are all digital, this is backed by the fact that all these have to be measured in certain amounts and represented by a number. But certain amounts represented by numbers also have amounts between these certain amounts which are represented by irrational numbers. Irrational numbers are undefined and therefore these irrational amounts cannot exist which leads to a digital reality. "Irrational numbers are undefined"? Um, no. For starters, pi and e are defined.
Semjase Posted November 15, 2012 Author Posted November 15, 2012 Orbitals are represented a certain amount of possible ones not an infinitely amount of possible ones which in it's self indicates digital structure of reality. e and pi cannot be represented by exact amounts they can only be represented by increasing degrees of precision. I'd like to add this that e and pi are a theoretical concept from analog mathematics that actually cannot be represented by a certain amount in reality.
swansont Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Orbitals are represented a certain amount of possible ones not an infinitely amount of possible ones which in it's self indicates digital structure of reality. e and pi cannot be represented by exact amounts they can only be represented by increasing degrees of precision. I'd like to add this that e and pi are a theoretical concept from analog mathematics that actually cannot be represented by a certain amount in reality. Orbitals are not orbits. e and pi are not "exact" but that's not the same as undefined. They are irrational. What of it?
Semjase Posted November 15, 2012 Author Posted November 15, 2012 Let me look at the problem this way lets say that science way in the future has finally found the fundamental building block of nature this building block has finally proven to be indivisible, you now have a digital system. If the system is truly analog you would be able divide amounts into smaller and smaller quantities eventually I think that this will be proven not to be the case.
ACG52 Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Let me look at the problem this way lets say that science way in the future has finally found the fundamental building block of nature this building block has finally proven to be indivisible, you now have a digital system. If the system is truly analog you would be able divide amounts into smaller and smaller quantities eventually I think that this will be proven not to be the case. So you're saying that if something way in the future is found, you're right. Until then, if ever, you're wrong.
swansont Posted November 16, 2012 Posted November 16, 2012 Discrete (quantized) and digital are still not the same thing.
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