benzex Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 helpppppppp! whats the strongest and most dangerous chemical, both organic and inorganic? some says its hydrogen sulphide.is it true? if so y that chemical is that strong to affect the body?
Primarygun Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 hydrogen sulphide This may be harmful to human body and affect our health, but it is not the most dangerous one apparently.
Gilded Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 "Strongest" and "most dangerous" are quite wide concepts. I don't even know what you mean by "strongest", and the "most dangerous" is hard to define as you haven't specified the danger type. Inhalation? Ingestion? Poking it with a stick? Pouring water on it? Just standing next to it, waiting it to screw up your mRNA? Mmmm... Unfolded mRNA... *drool*
jdurg Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 "Strongest" and "most dangerous" are quite wide concepts. I don't even know what you mean by "strongest", and the "most dangerous" is hard to define as you haven't specified the danger type. Inhalation? Ingestion? Poking it with a stick? Pouring water on it? Just standing next to it, waiting it to screw up your mRNA? Mmmm... Unfolded mRNA... *drool* Exactly. It's like asking what the 'strongest' acid is. There are so many different ways to define 'strongest' that there really is no answer. For your question, HCN, H2S, HF, Cl2, F2, Br2, As, Hg, dimethyl mercury, dioxin, benzene, etc. etc. are all things I wouldn't want to have in my body. There really is no way to define what the 'strongest' or 'most dangerous' is.
dryan Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 I've heard of Pirahna Bath being quite dangerous. (Peroxymonosulfuric Acid) http://yarchive.net/chem/piranha_solution.html The last post in that thread is a must read.
2004einstein Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 helpppppppp! whats the strongest and most dangerous chemical, both organic and inorganic? some says its hydrogen sulphide.is it true? if so y that chemical is that strong to affect the body? O2.............NONE of us can live for more than a few minutes without it yet its killing us ALL.
Gilded Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 "O2.............NONE of us can live for more than a few minutes without it yet its killing us ALL." Let's put fluorine in the place of oxygen in the atmosphere and see how living things like that.
budullewraagh Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 sorry man but this is a truly terrible thread. there are loads of things i dont want to be exposed to. i have been exposed to H2S, Br2, Cl2, SO2, HCl(g), (CH3CH2)2O, Cl2O and NH3(g) among others and i will say that they are really unpleasant, some more so than others. these are by no means even close to as lethal (concentration-wise) as many other chems, namely v and g agents, such as tabun, sarin and vx as well as the novichok agents. plutonium also is incredibly dangerous in multiple ways. i believe that speaking in terms of fatal doses by number of molecules, botulinum toxin a is the most "dangerous"
Gilded Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 "i believe that speaking in terms of fatal doses by number of molecules, botulinum toxin a is the most "dangerous"" I must add that if you could divide a schnapps glass of botulin A amongst the Swedish population, they'd all die.
budullewraagh Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 actually it would require significantly less than that
jdurg Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 While not really the most 'lethal' in terms of one dose, over a longer time diacetyl morphine is perhaps the most hideous and horrendous of all 'designer' organic compounds.
budullewraagh Posted December 20, 2004 Posted December 20, 2004 funny how bayer sold that as medicine in the 1800s...
jdurg Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Oh yeah. It was designed to be a potent cough supressant (which it is) without the addicting effects of morphine. It was called 'Heroin' because it was chique to call things after ladies, and because they thought it would be the hero of the times. (As in allowing people to avoid the horrendous coughs, but not be addicted). Ummm....... OOPS! This was all before the FDA and other testing agencies were founded. So they only had the tests that the doctors did on themselves and people they knew. There was no long term testing to see that people would become severely addicted to it physically, much more so than morphine. It's one of those drugs that had real good intentions behind its synthesis, but horrendous results.
benzex Posted December 21, 2004 Author Posted December 21, 2004 Exactly. It's like asking what the 'strongest' acid is. There are so many different ways to define 'strongest' that there really is no answer. For your question, HCN, H2S, HF, Cl2, F2, Br2, As, Hg, dimethyl mercury, dioxin, benzene, etc. etc. are all things I wouldn't want to have in my body. There really is no way to define what the 'strongest' or 'most dangerous' is. ok ok.i mean affectin the body inorder to bring instant death.
benzex Posted December 21, 2004 Author Posted December 21, 2004 sorry man but this is a truly terrible thread. there are loads of things i dont want to be exposed to. i have been exposed to H2S, Br2, Cl2, SO2, HCl(g), (CH3CH2)2O, Cl2O and NH3(g) among others and i will say that they are really unpleasant, some more so than others. these are by no means even close to as lethal (concentration-wise) as many other chems, namely v and g agents, such as tabun, sarin and vx as well as the novichok agents. plutonium also is incredibly dangerous in multiple ways. i believe that speaking in terms of fatal doses by number of molecules, botulinum toxin a is the most "dangerous" thats cool.thanx
Gilded Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 "actually it would require significantly less than that" Yeah, but the Swedish like schnapps.
Gilded Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 "VX gas or Plutonium would be my choices" Why plutonium? Because it can be used in a fission bomb? If that's the area we're in, I'd say deuterium is more dangerous. )
TWJian Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Hydrogen sulphide(H2S) is comparable to hydrogen cyanide(HCN) in terms of toxicity,but it's not rather hazardous because it's easily detectable.Btw,no offence,but your thread isn't rather good.Since they are a lot of hazardous chemicals around there, you cannot determine which one is the most dangerous.They are no benchmarks for it.
jdurg Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 Hydrogen sulphide(H2S) is comparable to hydrogen cyanide(HCN) in terms of toxicity,but it's not rather hazardous because it's easily detectable.Btw,no offence,but your thread isn't rather good.Since they are a lot of hazardous chemicals around there, you cannot determine which one is the most dangerous.They are no benchmarks for it. Well, the LD50 is a good quantitative benchmark for the toxicity of a substance.
budullewraagh Posted December 21, 2004 Posted December 21, 2004 i am completely sure that the most toxic compound is botulinum toxin a. hands down.
benzex Posted December 22, 2004 Author Posted December 22, 2004 Hydrogen sulphide(H2S) is comparable to hydrogen cyanide(HCN) in terms of toxicity,but it's not rather hazardous because it's easily detectable.Btw,no offence,but your thread isn't rather good.Since they are a lot of hazardous chemicals around there, you cannot determine which one is the most dangerous.They are no benchmarks for it. hmmmm! its just a question. i dont mind whether its good or bad. my brain isnt that good to create single one. arguments about a foolish thing might be useful, if we create good results out of that. u r correct..lot of hazadous chemicals around us
budullewraagh Posted December 22, 2004 Posted December 22, 2004 i agree, but the most toxic chemical IS IN FACT botulinum toxin a
YT2095 Posted December 22, 2004 Posted December 22, 2004 "VX gas or Plutonium would be my choices" Why plutonium? Because it can be used in a fission bomb? If that's the area we're in' date=' I'd say deuterium is more dangerous. )[/quote'] regardless of the very potent radiation potential, as a Toxin (poison) it`s pretty high up on the list too! as for botulinum, the Clostridium Botulin toxin is ONE of the most toxic, but not THE most, it`s only classed that way as it`s dispersal is relatively easy, Ricin kicks Ass out of it uG for uG, dispersal is the hard part
budullewraagh Posted December 22, 2004 Posted December 22, 2004 actually, botulinum toxin a is something like 100 million times more lethal than ricin
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