Alien contact?

[Semjase]

This is the most important alien contact with the human race,

it is with the Plejaren people who Semjase is a member,

They are a peace loving race who have had peace

on their planet which is in the Pleiades star system,

for 50,000 years, the caucasian race on our planet

has it's roots from their star system. 1800 pages

of contact reports, of recorded conversations with

them is available on a pdf download at the following

web page.

 

 

http://www.helirods.net/apps/documents/

 

Here are some images related to them

 

The Plejaren alphabet

A laser gun

Semjase by her ship

Semjase doing a flight

demonstration in her ship

The Plejaren peace symbol

 

 

 

[Moontanman]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence... What you present as evidence is horse feathers...

[Semjase]

If you read the contact reports carefully you will

find the body of evidence overwhelming.

 

Here are some further images

 

Asket is the women

who is a related race to

the Plejaren, notice her

lower forward placed ear lobes

 

Plejaren man in space suits

 

A ship at close range

[Moontanman]

I thought your name looked familiar...

 

Semjase, this stuff was horse feathers 40 years ago (when i was really into UFOs), it is horse feathers now, and 40 years from now it will still be horse feathers...

 

It smacks of racism, tries to elevate Caucasians above everyone else on the earth, makes the impossible assertion that humans and life forms from another world can interbreed, that in of it's self falsifies the entire idea, it's an outdated hoax that tried to appeal to the idea that white people are somehow special, nearer to the angels, and the old guy who took the pics was hoaxer, his space ships were clunky and not very realistic...

[Ringer]

It's amazing the rendition of their alphabet's sounds isn't using the international phonetic alphabet, and instead seems to just use the many of the words for the proto-Canaanite letters. This would kind of suggest this construction wasn't done by professional linguists. Which means it's probably just something someone put together to make it look legitimate.

[Semjase]

Here's a comparison between the Plejaren

alphabet and the Hebrew alphabet.

[Moontanman]

Here's a comparison between the Plejaren

alphabet and the Hebrew alphabet.

 

 

And your point would be what?

[Semjase]

A smoking gun.

 

I like to add that Plejaren scientist named Sejasa took a native

earth women Eve and fathered the caucasian race as

refered to in the bible 13000 years ago and as mentioned in the

contact reports by Semjase. To further complicate the story

Jesus was fathered by a man from their star system who

actually was Jmmanuel who later became known as Jesus,

his life was recorded 2000 years ago, and the scrolls were found

and translated into English and be viewed here.

 

 

talmud.pdf

[Moontanman]

A smoking gun.

 

I like to add that Plejaren scientist named Sejasa took a native

earth women Eve and fathered the caucasian race as

refered to in the bible 13000 years ago and as mentioned in the

contact reports by Semjase. To further complicate the story

Jesus was fathered by a man from their star system who

actually was Jmmanuel who later became known as Jesus,

his life was recorded 2000 years ago, and the scrolls were found

and translated into English and be viewed here.

 

 

 

 

Exactly what has the gun been smoking?

[Semjase]

Since their home planet Erra is 500 light years away their ships have the technology

to break the light barrier where matter becomes tachyon particles, in reality matter

dematerializes and becomes imaginary matter as predicted by the Gamma equation

if light barrier is broken, matter then rematerializes when you slow down below

light speed. This same effect makes time travel to the future and the past possible

which they are capable of safely.

[Moontanman]

Since their home planet Erra is 500 light years away their ships have the technology

to break the light barrier where matter becomes tachyon particles, in reality matter

dematerializes and becomes imaginary matter as predicted by the Gamma equation

if light barrier is broken, matter then rematerializes when you slow down below

light speed. This same effect makes time travel to the future and the past possible

which they are capable of safely.

 

 

Semjase, i suggest you read the rules, even in speculations you have to back up your claims and you are not providing anything but unsupported claims as evidence, such claims are not evidence...

[Semjase]

Without faster than light travel how would any space travellers

be able leave thier world and traverse great distances in space

and return to their own world near the date they left instead of

in a different century. Faster than light speeds have already

been observed experimentally. And time travel is a new field

of research.

[Moontanman]

Without faster than light travel how would any space travellers

be able leave thier world and traverse great distances in space

and return to their own world near the date they left instead of

in a different century.

 

Well for that to be significant you would first have to establish that alien space ships actually exist but to travel between stars can be accomplished by generational slow ships...

 

 

 

Faster than light speeds have already

been observed experimentally.

 

Evidence please...

 

And time travel is a new field

of research.

 

Evidence please...

[Semjase]

Observed faster than light speeds.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/841690.stm

 

Time travel research.

 

http://phys.org/news63371210.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1269288/STEPHEN-HAWKING-How-build-time-machine.html

[Moontanman]

Observed faster than light speeds.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/841690.stm

 

No not really...

 

The group velocity of a light pulse depends upon the mixture of frequencies within the pulse and the medium through which it travels. It need not be the speed of the pulse itself.

The important thing, however, is that whilst the group velocity can be manipulated to be faster than the speed of light, it is not possible to use this effect to send information faster than the speed of light.

 

 

 

Time travel research.

 

http://phys.org/news63371210.html

 

No evidently not...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Mallett

 

 

 

 

 

Objections

In a paper by Ken Olum and Allen Everett^[8] the authors claimed to have found problems with Mallett's analysis. One of their objections is that the spacetimewhich Mallett used in his analysis contains a singularity even when the power to the laser is off and is not the spacetime that would be expected to arise naturally if the circulating laser were activated in previously empty space. Mallett has not offered a published response to Olum and Everett, but in his bookTime Traveler he mentions that he was unable to directly model the optical fiber or photonic crystal which bends the light's path as it travels through it, so the light circulates around rather than moving in a straight line; as a substitute he chose to include a "line source" (a type of one-dimensional singularity) which would act as a "geometric constraint", bending spacetime in such a way that the light would circulate around on a helix-shaped path in a vacuum^[9] (for an older solution involving an infinite cylinder which creates CTCs, in this case due to the cylinder's own rotation rather than light circulating around it, see theTipler cylinder). He notes that closed timelike curves are present in a spacetime containing both the line source and the circulating light, while they are not present in a spacetime containing only the line source, so that "the closed loops in time had been produced by the circulating flow of light, and not by the non-moving line source."^[10] However, he does not provide any additional argument as to why we should expect to see closed timelike curves in a different spacetime where there is no line source, and where the light is caused to circulate due to passing through a physical substance like a photonic crystal rather than circulating in a vacuum due to the curved spacetime around the line source.

Another objection by Olum and Everett is that even if Mallett's choice of spacetime were correct, the energy required to twist spacetime sufficiently would be huge, and that with lasers of the type in use today the ring would have to be much larger in circumference than the observable universe. At one point Mallett agreed that in a vacuum the energy requirements would be impractical but noted that the energy required goes down as the speed of light goes down. He then argued that if the light is slowed down significantly by passing it through a medium (as in the experiments of Lene Hau where light was passed through asuperfluid and slowed to about 17 metres per second) the needed energy would be attainable.^[11] However, the physicist J. Richard Gott argues that slowing down light by passing it through a medium cannot be treated as equivalent to lowering the constant c (the speed of light in a vacuum) in the equations of General Relativity, saying:^[12]

One has to distinguish between the speed of light in a vacuum, which is a constant, and through any other medium, which can vary enormously. Light travels more slowly through water than through empty space, for example, but this does not mean that you age more slowly while scuba diving or that it is easier to twist space-time underwater.

The experiments done so far don't lower the speed of light in empty space; they just lower the speed of light in a medium and should not make it easier to twist space-time. Thus, it should not take any less mass-energy to form a black hole or a time machine of a given size in such a medium.

Later, Mallett abandoned the idea of using slowed light to reduce the energy, writing that, "For a time, I considered the possibility that slowing down light might increase the gravitational frame dragging effect of the ring laser ... Slow light, however, turned out not to be helpful for my research."^[13]

Finally, Olum and Everett note a theorem proven by Stephen Hawking in a 1992 paper on the Chronology Protection Conjecture,^[14] which demonstrated that according to General Relativity it should be impossible to create closed timelike curves in any finite region that satisfies the weak energy condition, meaning that the region contains no exotic matter with negative energy. Mallett's original solution involved a spacetime containing a line source of infinite length, so it did not violate this theorem despite the absence of exotic matter, but Olum and Everett point out that the theorem "would, however, rule out the creation of CTC's in any finite-sized approximation to this spacetime."

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1269288/STEPHEN-HAWKING-How-build-time-machine.html

 

You really didn't read this one did you?

Edited December 19, 2012 by Moontanman

[Semjase]

You missed the point mainstream physics is interested in time travel.

 

http://mkaku.org/home/?page_id=252

[Moontanman]

You missed the point mainstream physics is interested in time travel.

 

http://mkaku.org/home/?page_id=252

 

 

Being interested is not the same as doing it...

[Semjase]

True, but their working on it

[ACG52]

Is Speculations the right forum for outright insanity?

[Semjase]

All these images didn't come out of thin air,

The contact reports have a lot of scientifically

verifiable information, for example they

mentioned that universes are created

by the creation in matter and antimatter

pairs. I know of no other way to make charged

particles except by pair creation, why is there no

antimatter in this universe. Is there an example

of science creating charged particles by anything

other means than by pair creation?

[Ophiolite]

Trash can please. Inventive and creative nonsense would have the benefit of being entertaining. This is as entertaining as a painting the toe nails of a dead hippo.

[John Cuthber]

This is the most important alien contact with the human race,

it is with the Plejaren people who Semjase is a member,

They are a peace loving race who have had peace

on their planet which is in the Pleiades star system,

for 50,000 years, the caucasian race on our planet

has it's roots from their star system. 1800 pages

of contact reports, of recorded conversations with

them is available on a pdf download at the following

web page.

 

 

http://www.helirods.net/apps/documents/

 

Here are some images related to them

 

The Plejaren alphabet

A laser gun

Semjase by her ship

Semjase doing a flight

demonstration in her ship

The Plejaren peace symbol

 

 

 

The peace symbol has the CND logo the wrong way up. So it no longer reads as N D in semaphore but UD or CE.

Very careless of them.

 

It's easy to compile a bunch of nonsense but include some real science (like pair creation) then say "it must be true- it has real science in it".

Copying a few facts doesn't make it real.

 

Copying an alphabet badly isn't difficult either ; it doesn't prove anything

.

 

Wondering about time travel isn't a "new field of research" and it wasn't when HG wells did it.

 

"I like to add that Plejaren scientist named Sejasa took a native

earth women Eve and fathered the caucasian race as

refered to in the bible 13000 years ago"

Well, since the bible says 6000 years ago and reality (you know- actual scientific evidence) says that there were people 200,000 years ago then the idea of 13,000 years being either correct or even WhatItSaysInTheBible is absurdly wrong.

[Semjase]

Adam and Eve was a story in the bible, where they

were created by God as specified by the date in the bible,

According to the Plejaren they were not created by God

but Eve was a native earth women who birth to Adam

with the union of Eve and their scientist Semjasa

13000 years ago.

 

The crediblity of the Plejaren hinges on

the fact they can see probalistic possibilities

in the future. They have predicted plate

shiftting in the pacific ocean which will

lead to a horseshoe shaped tsunami from

northern California to northern Washington.

They have mentioned December 21 2012

as the problem date and further research

on the subject which has lead to one

factor that could account for that prediction

which is the pole shift that will potentially

occur on that date.

[Moontanman]

Adam and Eve was a story in the bible, where they

were created by God as specified by the date in the bible,

According to the Plejaren they were not created by God

but Eve was a native earth women who birth to Adam

with the union of Eve and their scientist Semjasa

13000 years ago.

 

The crediblity of the Plejaren hinges on

the fact they can see probalistic possibilities

in the future. They have predicted plate

shiftting in the pacific ocean which will

lead to a horseshoe shaped tsunami from

northern California to northern Washington.

They have mentioned December 21 2012

as the problem date and further research

on the subject which has lead to one

factor that could account for that prediction

which is the pole shift that will potentially

occur on that date.

 

 

Well then in two more days we'll know if this is true or bullshit... exactly when was this prediction made?

[Semjase]

Here's the video from where the prediction comes from.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqT6QOxaxbQ