The second coming the ultimate test of religious prophecies

[Semjase]

I have to start with the most accurate prophecy to date, the prophecy of the popes which is an exact short description

in order of 112 popes, Benedict is the 111th pope , Peter the Roman is last pope mentioned and also it says

that the 7 hilled city will be destroyed.This prophecy is an over riding prophecy due to it's accuracy so if Benedict

is still alive then were safe. Other prophecies mention specific months but not years, and some prophecies

tie the second coming, world conflict, geological upheaval and 1000 years of peace in that order. Bible prophecies

being the most notable tie the first 3 in at the same time. What are the chances of all these prophecies independently

being arrived at being all wrong? If there is a God it would be a good time for him prove his existence now and the second

coming would be a good place to start.

Edited February 1, 2013 by Semjase

[Moontanman]

 

 

 

I'm a believer in eye witness testimonies I'm not a eye witness to these

events but other people are, if eye witness testimonies had no

credibility why would they be allowed in a court of law? Science

doesn't accept eye witnesses but a court of law does?

 

 

These are not eye witness testimonies Semjase, they are at best third hand accounts...

[tar]

Semjase,

 

Well as the spokesperson for this future race, can you ask them for us, for some of their technology, and a few helpful peices of detailed information? Such as which of the many possible cities and towns that are built on seven hills is going to be destroyed on which date, and we can order an evacuation a couple days ahead. We could also use the name and address of the antichrist, if he/she is already on this Earth, or the time and place of his/her future birth, so we can alert the local authorities to take proper precautionary measures. Sure would help to know exactly who not to listen to.

 

Regards, TAR2

[Semjase]

I don't have direct contact with Semjase's people some their technology

makes star treks look somewhat backwards. Do the math how many cities

have 7 hills not many. I don't have access to information concerning that. This

I know for sure events can be made real in the future, through time travel,

which people are yet to experience and no matter what information

is returned to the present you cannot change the outcome of that

event no matter what you do. It has to do with quantum reality

where things are made real from the future to the past. I have dealings

with the most advanced God there is. God of the bible is not too

happy about that so he made me into the fake antichrist, I work

for the greater good. The real antichrist is the leader who starts

world war 3. Just like God made the Jesus name it's faked. The

real Jesus is Jmmanuel.

Edited February 2, 2013 by Semjase

[John Cuthber]

OK, that's a testable prediction. If we are still here at Christmas will you accept that religion gets things wrong and science gets things right?

 

If not then you are admitting that your actions have nothing much to do with science and you earlier assertion that you are a "science person" is nonsense.

[tar]

Semjase,

 

I'm done. You have nothing sensible to offer.

 

Nevermind, TAR2

[Semjase]

I had channel opened to by an intelligence identifying itself

as the Alien God so me being a scientific person looked

for evidence to support their claim and that its not just an over active

imagination I found plenty they showed me a factoring alogrithm

that will easily factor RSA challenge numbers. It's a security problem

so I really can't use it. I was curious if anyone brought forward information

concerning the Alien God and then I found this

 

He shall
regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor
regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. 38 But in
their place he shall honor a god of fortresses;
and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and
silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. 39 Thus he shall act
against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god [literally an
alien god], which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he
shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain.

 

that quote is right out of the bible

next I looked for someone who might of brought an alien god forward in the public eye

there was no one so I'm saying what the hell is going on here. So what do I think?

 

I just found this an interpretation of the above quote

 

Here it is apparent that the Antichrist will not only acknowledge the
"aliens", the minions of the "alien god of fortresses", but he will also
control their activities. He will be their "emissary" and spokesman.

Edited February 2, 2013 by Semjase

[John Cuthber]

I'm a science person not a religious mental case.

 

I had channel opened to by an intelligence identifying itself

as the Alien God so me being a scientific person looked

for evidence to support their claim and that its not just an over active

imagination

[Semjase]

I think God has dishonesty problem you can't have 2

antichrists at the end times the bible refers to the antichrist

singularly God needs a diversion to take peoples attention away

from from the real one he doesn't want known and fabricates one.

Just like Jmmanuel God couldn't live with Jmmanuel's background

created a factious name, Jesus for him and changed his teachings

and life story, deciding on the events he wanted out of countless

possibilities in the future.

On further research on the second coming I've found that

it is after the prophesied tragic turn of events in this world, when

Jmmanuel with renewed life and alien help will establish 1000

years of peace in this world.

[John Cuthber]

Did it occur to you that the reason the Bible contradicts itself is because it's a book of made-up stories.

[Semjase]

Science has already proven that there is fiction in the bible,

but when science fully unravels quantum reality and comes

up the entire picture of all science will fact from fiction, and the

entire truth about the bible be accepted. The science of God

kind of has a ring to it. When comes to evidence science

has to start somewhere, biblical and religious prophecies

that are verified can be classified as evidence that there

is important verifiable facts in the bible. Religion is a murky

science and it will take a long time before it's finally unraveled.

Edited February 3, 2013 by Semjase

[iNow]

The science of God

kind of has a ring to it.

We already have such a science. It's called psychology.

[John Cuthber]

Science has already proven that there is fiction in the bible,

but when science fully unravels quantum reality and comes

up the entire picture of all science will fact from fiction, and the

entire truth about the bible be accepted. The science of God

kind of has a ring to it.

Do you realise that, when science reveals a few more truths it's likely that there will be so little left of the bible that " the entire truth about the bible" won't mean anything?

" the entire truth about the bible" may well turn out to be that the Bible was made up by a self interested group about 100 years after the events it purports to record.

"All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental."

[Semjase]

The first question does God exist at all? If you don't ask that question the

the rest is irrelevant. The next question then is the bible God's handiwork,

or the work of men? God or no God is the question? I guess until the matter

is finally resolved it will be a matter of faith.Then it becomes the question of the value

of faith? Pascal's Wager might resolve this.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

Edited February 3, 2013 by Semjase

[John Cuthber]

"The first question does God exist at all?"

And the answer is that there's no reason to suppose He does.

There's also strong evidence that the God described in the Bible does not actually exist.

The Bible is clearly not the work of any competent God since it contradicts itself.

[Semjase]

God of the bible never said he was a nice guy how many people did the church burn at the stake?

That's why I have a belief it in higher science, higher values and a higher God.

 

The burning of Giordano Bruno a catholic priest is classic example of the church's

historical contempt for new scientific ideas.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

Edited February 3, 2013 by Semjase

[iNow]

How is this not breaking the rule here against proselytizing?

[Semjase]

I not trying to convert anyone I'm just discussing facts.

[iNow]

I not trying to convert anyone I'm just discussing facts.

Your posts are long on opinion and light on facts. That word means something different to you than the rest of us, apparently.

[Semjase]

I'll make it clear from now on when it is my opinion or a known fact.

[Phi for All]

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Moderator Note

Semjase, if you want to discuss religion here, we have certain expectations regarding evidence, fact vs opinion, and non-alien involvement, which you clearly are not meeting. This thread is closed.