sgreen Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I am confused with IUPAC naming with more functional group -CHO, -COOH. What is the IUPAC naming of the following compound? CH3-CH2-CH(CHO)-CH2-COOH . I think it's 3-alpentanoic acid. Please help me to choose the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iota Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't know, myself. But you might consider downloading 'Accelrys Draw', it's a free chemistry tool on which you can draw a molecule, then have it generate IUPAC names, MMRs etc. Takes a while to get used to using but it's very useful, we use it at university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 formyl pentanoic acid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreen Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) I don't know, myself. But you might consider downloading 'Accelrys Draw', it's a free chemistry tool on which you can draw a molecule, then have it generate IUPAC names, MMRs etc. Takes a while to get used to using but it's very useful, we use it at university. Thanks formyl pentanoic acid Thanks .Is it possible 3-ethyle-4-oxobutanoic acid or 3-alpentanoic acid? Please, please ensure . Edited February 7, 2013 by sgreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 An oxo pentanoic acid would have a ketone (rather than an aldehyde) group as well as an acid group. Al is only used as a suffix, not a prefix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreen Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 An oxo pentanoic acid would have a ketone (rather than an aldehyde) group as well as an acid group. Al is only used as a suffix, not a prefix In case of Aldehyde, what is prefix except formyl- replacing in 3-alpentanoic acid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Well, oxo really applies to any group with a =O in it, so were it another type of aldehyde attached to that structure, you would use oxo. For instance, if we had something like this: The carboxylic acid is still the parent functional group, which means it still ends in -oic acid. The aldehyde is at the 6 position and the ethyl group is at position 4, making the full name of the compound, 4-ethyl-6-oxohexanoic acid. Edit: I agree with John that 2-formylpentanoic acid would be the name you would use for your compound, although I also think that 2-(oxomethyl)-pentanoic acid would be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreen Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 Well, oxo really applies to any group with a =O in it, so were it another type of aldehyde attached to that structure, you would use oxo. For instance, if we had something like this: The carboxylic acid is still the parent functional group, which means it still ends in -oic acid. The aldehyde is at the 6 position and the ethyl group is at position 4, making the full name of the compound, 4-ethyl-6-oxohexanoic acid. Edit: I agree with John that 2-formylpentanoic acid would be the name you would use for your compound, although I also think that 2-(oxomethyl)-pentanoic acid would be correct. CH3-CH2-CH(CHO)-CH2-COOH.... exactly 3-formylpentanoic acid or 2-formylpentanoic acid. And how it can be 2-(oxomethyl)-pentanoic acid? Would you please elaborate? IF YOU HAVE TIME..PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Sorry, I had meant to say 3-formylpentanoic acid / 3-(oxomethyl)-pentanoic acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreen Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 Sorry, I had meant to say 3-formylpentanoic acid / 3-(oxomethyl)-pentanoic acid. Thanks a lot. I have unterstood 3-formylpentanoic acid. But why 3-(oxomethyl)-pentanoic acid? If you give the answer in more detail, it will be better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 The oxo prefix simply refers to =O. Oxomethyl means you have a =O attached to a methyl group, giving you the -CHO group. Having 3-(oxomethyl) means that the -CHO is attached to the 3 position, as in your compound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreen Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 The oxo prefix simply refers to =O. Oxomethyl means you have a =O attached to a methyl group, giving you the -CHO group. Having 3-(oxomethyl) means that the -CHO is attached to the 3 position, as in your compound. Thanks for quick reply. Now I get the clear understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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