Speeds greater than the speed of light

[vasileturcu]

A postrelativist theory is suggested. The theoretical result is in accordance with the experimental one, into this field. The relativistic physics that we use don't permit us to use speeds greater than the speed of light c and thus, the OPERA type experimentals results can't have a theoretical interpretation. The mathematical and physical interpretation of the OPERA type results is done with my theory presented in this paper "About the rest velocity V0", which permit speeds greater then c for particle bodies with steady-state mass m0.

 

 

All the best,

Turcu Vasile

 

 

 

rest velocity.pdf

[Klaynos]

You know that the greater than c neutrino speed has been resolved and was a problem with the experiment, don't you?

[vasileturcu]

There was a problem with the experiment and so, the neutrino speed isn't greater than c. Anyway the reviews are diferent between the savants. My theory demonstrate that there are speeds greater than c and I give the calculation method.

[Klaynos]

There was a problem with the experiment and so, the neutrino speed isn't greater than c. Anyway the reviews are diferent between the savants. My theory demonstrate that there are speeds greater than c and I give the calculation method.

Can you provide a brief summarynof numerical predoctions and some derivation of those preditions in the forum?

[vasileturcu]

In this paper we give four examples for computing the rest velocity V₀ ,in accordance with formula (8): for meson,miuon,electron and the Earth on it's orbit.At the end,we give also an example for OPERA experiment neutrinos

Example. A car drived by a pilot,has at one moment a velocity by V=100 m/s (360 km/h).The reference sistem O is the Earth which all what is fixed on its surface.Now the O' reference sistem is the car and its pilot.This is the velocity in state of motion V ,determined with the apparatus from the ground the sistem O.In accordance with formula (8) from the paper,the mobile has in fact the rest velocity V₀ which is V₀=100+108x10^-13 m/s,or 100.0000000000108 m/s.In fact the mobile O' has a velocity V₀ greater than those that is measured on ground O ,with 0.108x10^-10 m/s (approximate 10% of an atom's diameter).The rest velocity V₀ is shown by car's dashboard.

Example.In the cosmic rocket's case which has a velocity in state of motion V=10 km/s,in accordance with (8) from the paper,the rest velocity is V₀=10+108x10^-10 km/s.So the real velocity V₀ of the rocket is greater with 108x10^-13 m/s than V,the velocity which we are calculated on the ground.In this case,the refference sistem O is the Earth and the O' reference sistem is the rocket from space.In fact each man (O' refference sistem) which walks on the ground has the rest velocity V₀ ,and on observer on the Earth (O refference sistem) calculates the velocity in state of motion V.Always V₀>V .

Every material body (O' referance frame) has in reality a rest velocity V₀ computed with (8),but in O referance frame we compute it's moving velocity V.In O referance frame we compute the moving velocity V of the O' referance frame,using electromagnetic waves propagating with velocity c.Because of that we are unable to measure a velocity greater then c from O referance frame.Only in the O' referance frame (e.g. neutrino in OPERA experiment) we can measure a velocity greater than c.It seems that in OPERA experiment it was possible to measure the rest velocity V₀ of the neutrino,greater than c.

In accordance with formula (8) we introduce a new variable,the rest velocity V₀ of bodies with mass m.Electromagnetic waves do not have rest velocity,only a moving velocity V=c ,in void.This is similar with the motion of bodies through air.The ones with supersonic speed (over 330 m/s),can be heard after passing.The air is propagation medium for sound.Electromagnetic waves are the propagation medium for light.We show in this paper that for a relativ velocity V=185281.928611 km/s ,the rest velocity V₀ surpass c.Over relativ velocity V=1.85281928611x10⁸ m/s,in respect to O referance frame,material bodies (O' referance frame) have a V₀ greater than the speed of light c.From O referance frame we detect the O' referance frame after it is gone.When V>1.85281928611x10⁸ m/s then V₀>c ,in this way interstelar flights are posible.More over,in O referance frame we have V,S,t and m,and in O' referance frame we have V₀,S₀,t₀ and m₀.In newtonian macanics we have the same variables V,S,t and m in both O and O'.In relativist mecanics we have V,S,t and m in O,and V,S₀,t₀ and m₀ in O'.We propose,in accordance with formula (8),that in O' we have V₀ instead of V,creating a postrelativist theory with velocities greater than c,only for bodies with mass m.In this way we can explain the space contraction,time dilatation and mass increase from theory of relativity.With V₀>c it is possible that causality law is violated.It could be a explanation for dark matter and dark energy.

[swansont]

I think the request was for a summary and discussion, rather than a copy/paste from the paper.

[ACG52]

I've read that as carefully as I can, working under the assumption that there was meaning to be gotten.

 

Nope, no such luck.

[Klaynos]

Rest velocity sounds rather nonsensical. Your text is difficult to penetrate. But we can start with what you mean by a rest velocity.

[Didymus]

1: I'm curious where you got the "108x10^-13" figure? In one calculation it's added to meters/second, in another it's added to km/second. Doesn't seem to be a ratio based on anything.

 

2: It doesn't look like any actual experimentation was done. You're giving VERY specific numbers based on what you anticipate the thought experiments would look like... yet not relying on the logic behind the thought experiment... but the numbers from the results of the thought experiments... which you set arbitrarily.

[vasileturcu]

By introducing the rest velocity V0 for bodies with mass m,it follows a symmetric postrelativistic theory,which is elegant and beautiful,but closed: we have V0,S0,t0 and m0.There is a rest space S0,a rest time t0,a rest mass m0 and now we have a rest velocity V0.Physically speaking,does anyone feel the space,to say what it is? Is there restless time? No! There is V0,which animates all material bodies.

But V0 follows from the theory of relativity,that is,formula (8) from my paper.

S

---------------

V²

 

(1- -----)^1/2

S0 c² V

V0=-----=--------------------- = ------------

t0 V² V²

t (1- ------- )1/2 1- --------

c² c²

A material body (reference frame 0') has a relative velocity V=100 m/s.With formula (8) we compute V0:

100 100 100

V0 = ------------------------------ = -------------------------------- = -----------------------------= 100.0000000000111= 100+0.111x10^-10 m/s

100 1 - 0.1112650056x10^-12 0.9999999999998887

1 - (----------------------)²

2.99792458x10⁸

V is computed in the reference frame 0. I used SI system unit.

[ACG52]

By introducing the rest velocity V0 for bodies with mass m

Rest velocity relative to what?

[Klaynos]

Again, what do you mean by rest velocity? How would you physically measure it?

[vasileturcu]

V0 is relative to V,according to formula (8).

In my opinion,it could be experienced in an elementary particle accelerator.For example,take a lenght of S0=10³ m. An elementary particle of mass m has relative speed in the accelerator V=2.99777468x10⁸ m/s.The speed of light in void is c=2.99792458x10⁸ m/s. According to formula (8) the rest velocity is V0=2.99777468x10¹² m/s.From accelerator system we compute V ,but the particle has V0 .Recording the time t traveled by the particle.

S0 10³

t = ----- = -------------------------- = 3.33x10^-6 s

V 2.99777468x10⁸

or

S0 10³

t0 = ------ = ------------------------- = 3.33x10^-10 s

V0 2.99777468x10¹²

 

If the time is 3.33x10^-10 s ,the theory is corect.If not,it's false.

All the best,Turcu Vasile