agachak Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) according to science all started from BIG BANG and in bibble read at first page let there be LIGHT same thing ?and koran it says respect thisman (jesus) dont that support theory of jesus and then from jesus to muhammed evrybody know bible exists true right? but haveu ever consider apostolhave written that book with 100% possibility and they told from jesus and from that book and from their descendant came cristianity all those thing are facts so dontit lead jesus existed same time as apostolls wrote bible and so is indeed real person to klanynos could be true or not because cristicany existed inin ancient rome abot few years after birth of jesus Edited February 16, 2013 by agachak
Klaynos Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 evrybody know bible is true right Nope. Have a look at the history of the bible, how long after the supposed events it was written and how the books were selected from a larger group... 1
ajb Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 according to science all started from BIG BANG and in bibble read at first page let there be LIGHT same thing ? You are trying to fit the rhetoric found in the bible with modern scientific theory. To some extent you will always be able to do this, but this does not mean that the writers of the bible had any knowledge of modern cosmology as we know it today. 2
agachak Posted February 16, 2013 Author Posted February 16, 2013 that first idea was ment for this time fysicis not connect anyway to later idea of bible it self
Tim the plumber Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 The bible is obviously wrong in many ways. The earth was not created in 6 days. Noah's flood did not happen. There's lots more. 1
ydoaPs Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 evrybody know bible exists true right?I'm not really sure what you're trying to say in this post because of the grammar and spelling. Like this part, I have no idea what "exists true" is supposed to mean. Do I think that there exists an anthology labeled "The Bible"? Sure. Do I think every word written inside is absolutely literally true? Not by a long shot.but haveu ever consider apostolhave written that book with 100% possibilityThey didn't. The names on the Gospels were added much later and there's no real reason to believe that the names attributed to them are the names corresponding to the people who actually wrote them. Likewise, 1 Peter and 2 Peter are written by two different people, neither of which was Peter. Most of Paul's letters are forgeries and the accounts of his trip on the road to Damascus contradict each other.to klanynos could be true or not because cristicany existed inin ancient rome abot few years after birth of jesusNo, it didn't. That's not even true according the the fairy tale as written in the stories.
immortal Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 The earth was not created in 6 days. 6 days? In Divine Time or Human Time. What kind of information pertaining to the story of creation does Ramban reveal? Frankly, astounding information. For example, his description of the development of the universe bears an uncanny resemblance to Big Bang descriptions found in today’s physics books: "At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was very thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed." This was written about 800 years ago. Isaac ben Samuel of Acre14 (fl. 13th-14th century), a Kabbalist who lived in the land of Israel 800 years ago, was the first to state that the universe is actually billions of years old, at a time when the prevalent thought was that the universe was thousands of years old. Isaac arrived at this conclusion by distinguishing between time as experienced by humans and time as experienced by God, here in described as Human Time and Divine Time, respectively. However, his work was only brought to light recently in English by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan (1979). - The Genesis One Code 7000*365250*5.375 = 13.74 billion years which is same as the age of the universe as affirmed by science. -2
SamBridge Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) according to science all started from BIG BANG On top of all of the other points mentioned, that's not even accurate, we have no proof of that. "Creation tie" as you put it seems to be a logical loop hole if god actually existed. Relative to god it wished something to be true, but for the rest of the universe it still took time. Only problem is there's not much evidence for a being that can do that. Edited February 21, 2013 by SamBridge
PeterJ Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Yes. It would be a mistake to equate 'God' with a being. As Heidegger point sout, there is a persistent tendency in philosophy to confuse 'beings' with 'Being', and he calls it 'no mere error'. But to criticise the Bible for mentioning six days is daft in the extreme. It's a miracle that we don't all believe that babies are found under gooseberry bushes.
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