iNow Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 What kind of party is this? There's no booze and only one hooker.I'm sure swansont cannot be happy that you've just outed him as a prostitute. You were supposed to keep that on the DL. 1
Moontanman Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Damn, it's swansont? I thought I was the only man whore...
hypervalent_iodine Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I'm sure swansont cannot be happy that you've just outed him as a prostitute. You were supposed to keep that on the DL. Cut him some slack. It's exactly swansont's propensity to keep things on the 'DL' that would have had him outed eventually anyway.
swansont Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 That's right, I'm really Fred Garvin, male prostitute. Now get back to work. CHORES BEFORE WHORES!!!
Popcorn Sutton Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Yo, home bizzles, can a brudda get a mod tag, word.
Popcorn Sutton Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Come on I get invited to conferences, people want to publish my writing, people want me to teach classes, I just wrote a computer program that speaks and remembers what it's been talking about. Come on what does it take.
Popcorn Sutton Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 I hate the idea of positive and negative reinforcement. It's what causes people to be so emotional.
Phi for All Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Come on what does it take. About four years of NOT asking. 1
Phi for All Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Cheese Nips need no refrigeration, they glow in the dark so you can find them easily, they have a half-shelf-life of ~10,000 years and the mice and cockroaches won't touch them. And they go well with every drink, from beer to chocolate milk to grapefruit juice.
ydoaPs Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 About four years of NOT asking.Or you could always get compromising photos of Cap'n.
Ringer Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Or you could always get compromising photos of Cap'n. Finally! I was hoping to be able to use those one day.
iNow Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I hate the idea of positive and negative reinforcement. It's what causes people to be so emotional.I believe you've put the cart before the horse, as people being emotional is why they respond positively or negatively. Also, I think you're misusing the terms positive and negative reinforcement. Those tend to refer to behavioral conditioning (get a treat when you do something right, buzzing sound goes away when you plug in the seat belt in your car, for example). I suspect you're referring to the up and down votes on posts, aka rep? 1
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I believe you've put the cart before the horse, as people being emotional is why they respond positively or negatively. Also, I think you're misusing the terms positive and negative reinforcement. Those tend to refer to behavioral conditioning (get a treat when you do something right, buzzing sound goes away when you plug in the seat belt in your car, for example). I suspect you're referring to the up and down votes on posts, aka rep? Or possibly the end of the freemasons video.
iNow Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Or possibly the end of the freemasons video.Ah, of course. Thanks for that. (just so folks are clear, though... that's positive reinforcement versus punishment, not positive reinforcement versus negative reinforcement). Cheers.
Ringer Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I believe you've put the cart before the horse, There was this magnificent mathematical horse. You could teach it virtually anything with no problems, it could even prove theorems in euclidean geometry. But when you tried to teach it analytic geometry, it would go crazy and get violent. The moral of this story is that you can't put Descartes before the horse. 3
CaptainPanic Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 The moral of this story is that you can't put Descartes before the horse.
Popcorn Sutton Posted February 20, 2013 Author Posted February 20, 2013 No I could care less about the voting system on this forum. I think that the more votes the better. You simply can't draw any meaningful conclusions about someone based on their grades, which is what this voting system is like. But either way, the trading system is bad and or education system needs to be adjusted. If kids want to be smarter than their teachers, they can be smarter (if you can even measure that). Then because the teacher is in an authoritative position, they positively or negatively reinforce, which is degrading. It may be useful for criminals but it shouldnt be used on the average person. I dated a student of psychology for a while and absolutely couldn't be with her anymore because she whole heartedly believed that positive and negative behavioral reinforcement was the only way to make people change... she definitely changed things, I left her. As for the comment about descartes, I don't get it, but the man was brilliant.
iNow Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 There was this magnificent mathematical horse... I speak horse. He's called Susan, and he wants you to respect his life choices. 2
Moontanman Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I speak horse. He's called Susan, and he wants you to respect his life choices. Indeed, he thought Ed was to simplistic to describe his inner complexity...
Ophiolite Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 If kids want to be smarter than their teachers, they can be smarter (if you can even measure that). You seem to be confusing intellect, knowledge, motivation and paractical application, treating all as if they were a single entity. It is quite reasonable for kids to become more knowledgeable than their teachers - if they are smart enough and motivated enough to do it. Then because the teacher is in an authoritative position, they positively or negatively reinforce, which is degrading. Incorrect. The teacher uses reinforcement, not because they are in a position of authority, but because it works. I would be truly fascinated how you would go about encouraging learning in individuals without using such techniques. Further, you imply that reinforcement can only be used on persons below you in a heirarchy. Rubbish! I routinely use the techniques, with good effect on peers and superiors. As for the comment about descartes, I don't get it, but the man was brilliant. Unfortunately puns on Leibniz are more difficult to integrate into the fabric of a conversation, or differentiate them from a general comment.. 1
Ringer Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Unfortunately puns on Leibniz are more difficult to integrate into the fabric of a conversation, or differentiate them from a general comment..It's true, puns of him are truly infinitesimal.
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