weird thought about dark matter

[36grit]

Could dark matter have a structure similar to the atom?

I've read that the higgs boson exists everywhere, and I started thinking gravity also exists everywhere.

So, perhaps the higgs boson orbits a gravaton similar to an electron orbiting atomic nuclei. And that perhaps for the most part space time is similar to hydrogen having one gravaton and one higgs, but where we see dark matter as the scaffolding that holds the structure of the universe together, it is more a molecular like structure comprised of more complex versions of the particle.

Just a weird thought but what do we really know about it?

Perhaps unstable versions of the particle deteriourate into quarks.

[mathematic]

Higgs boson is an extremely short lived particle. It does not exist except for the short time after it is created. The graviton (not yet detected) is supposed to be a particle traveling at the speed of light. There is no way to connect the two.

 

Dark matter is presumed to consist of individual particles that are affexted only by gravity. There is no way to make complex combinations, since there is nothing to hold them together.

[timo]

Higgs boson is an extremely short lived particle. It does not exist except for the short time after it is created. The graviton (not yet detected) is supposed to be a particle traveling at the speed of light. There is no way to connect the two.

A neutron lives 10 minutes. But that does not stop atoms from being stable. I also don't see where the "no way to connect the two" statement comes from. With its high mass, the Higgs boson has a relatively strong interaction with Gravitons (meaning stronger than most elementary particles - the absolute strength would probably still be negligible).

 

 

Dark matter is presumed to consist of individual particles that are affected only by gravity.

... or by the weak force.

 

There is no way to make complex combinations, since there is nothing to hold them together.

"No way" is a strong statement. In this case, based on little. You are of course right that "something that only weakly interacts" is not exactly the thing you expect to form atomic-scale structures (galaxy-scale structures of dark matter have been found, afaik). But there is a large gap between "would not expect X" and "X is not true".

[MigL]

Only bound neutrons are stable Timo. Are you suggesting Higgs bosons may also have bound states?

 

A more accurate statement by Mathematic would have been '' dark matter consists of particles that are DETECTED only by gravity", as they are undetectable EMR and the other interactions are short range.

[timo]

Only bound neutrons are stable Timo. Are you suggesting Higgs bosons may also have bound states?

I am suggesting that bound states are what this thread is about.

Edited March 5, 2013 by timo

[mathematic]

Higgs boson life time is ~ 10^(-22) seconds. Except under extreme conditions, they don't exist.

[36grit]

Higgs boson life time is ~ 10^(-22) seconds. Except under extreme conditions, they don't exist.

I wonder if it's {the higgs} existence could be defined by the vibration rate of the gravaton. And if 10^{22}seconds is enough time for these bound gravatons to swap higgs bosons to form a molecular like structure.

 

When a body of atoms gets excited we say that it is hot. Perhaps time dialation is a simalar effect happening within a body of the of dark matter structure.

[Finalshine]