DOpEfrshKID Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hi, i i have a few questions on momentum and collisions. 1)in a inelastic collision are both objects moving or can 1 be stationary.2) In a elastic collision why is kinecetic energy conserved? 3) if kinectic energy is conserved in a elastic collision does it mean that it travels with the same velocity it had prior to the collision? And lucky last, a collision invovling dogems or bumper cars whould be what type of collision. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 You can have collisions where one object is stationary. You can always switch to the perspective of one of the colliding objects, because from its own perspective, it's stationary. That's the definition of an elastic collision. It wouldn't be elastic otherwise. No. One of the objects can give its energy to the other. For example, imagine shooting a pool ball into a stationary ball. The collision could be perfectly elastic, meaning the stationary ball ends up moving away with some speed and the cue ball slows down or stops. Newton's cradle also works with elastic collisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOpEfrshKID Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 so lets use this example, bumper car A has a mass of 200kg and travels at 5ms-1 east while bumper car b weighing 150kg travels 5ms-1 West. if this is a elastic collision , would the bumper cars rebound back at the same speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 No. If they did, momentum wouldn't be conserved. The total momentum vector would point east before and west afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Thando Mathe Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The momentum and KE are shared between the two bodies in any collision.But in the 'idealised' situation of perfectly elastic collisions,the approaching mass will donate all its KE to the other body or will impart some.The basic rule z ENERGY WILL NOG BE LOST AS OTHER FORMS.A body can thus continue to move (or after rebound) with a reduced velocity because it has shared its KE. The momentum and KE are shared between the two bodies in any collision.But in the 'idealised' situation of perfectly elastic collisions,the approaching mass will donate all its KE to the other body or will impart some.The basic rule z ENERGY WILL NOG BE LOST AS OTHER FORMS.A body can thus continue to move (or after rebound) with a reduced velocity because it has shared its KE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidnate98 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I also have a question but this subject requires a missing velocity if you had a velocity of 9 m/s accompanied by a mass of 5kg and 10kg how would you find the unknown velocity. its homework but I thought Id try a forum to see if I could get an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I also have a question but this subject requires a missing velocity if you had a velocity of 9 m/s accompanied by a mass of 5kg and 10kg how would you find the unknown velocity. its homework but I thought Id try a forum to see if I could get an answer. You have two unknown velocities — both particles after the collision. So you need to know some additional information: Is the collision elastic? Or completely inelastic? Those are the two solutions we can do with the given setup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidnate98 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 completely inelastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) m1=200kg m2=150kg u1=5 m/s u2= -5 m/s v1 is speed of car A after collision v2 is speed of car B after collision Can you use some equations?:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic_collision http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inelastic_collision Edited January 13, 2015 by DimaMazin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 So momentum is conserved, and if particle 2 is initially at rest and they go off with the same final speed, how would you write that down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimaMazin Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) So momentum is conserved, and if particle 2 is initially at rest and they go off with the same final speed, how would you write that down? v=maua / (ma+mb) I also have a question but this subject requires a missing velocity if you had a velocity of 9 m/s accompanied by a mass of 5kg and 10kg how would you find the unknown velocity. its homework but I thought Id try a forum to see if I could get an answer. For collision they should have different speeds, for example: ua=9 m/s ub= -9 m/s ma=5kg mb=10kg v=(maUa+mbub) / (ma+mb) Edited January 14, 2015 by swansont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I was't asking because I don't know. This is HW help. The point is to get the student to answer, and not just answer it for them I've modified the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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