sidharath Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 matter exhibits dual nature while in motion Is there internal change in matter while in motion:? is there any mechanism for it?i think there mus be some explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffon Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Do you mean the wave-particle duality of matter? I've long thought that duality a problem of human invention rather than being real. The behaviour of entities like electrons or photons is described by the equations of quantum mechanics. The outcome of particular experiments is provided by those equations. That's all we can know about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidharath Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 thank you for enlightening me you mean that mathematical equations when applied to unreal physical nature of system gives real results math is sly wizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffon Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Yes, the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics in the natural sciences as Eugene WIgner described it. But I was really thinking of the ineffectiveness of the fairy stories we construct to visualise physical systems we can't in fact see. Electrons in orbit of nuclei, that sort of thing. These constructs are ultimately unhelpful I think. We cannot really know what such inaccessible systems are like apart from how they behave in certain situations - the results of experiments or observations in other words. Edited April 2, 2013 by Griffon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 We see this wave/particle nature in particles that have no internal structure, like an electron. As far as we can tell, there can be no internal change, because there is nothing internally to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidharath Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 i may be wrong if i say that how non existent dual nature shows diffraction because diffraction can not be explained without wave narure even macroscopic particles with internal structure produce diffraction sorry by macroscopic particles i mean big molecule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffon Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I recommend Richard Feynman's very readable book QED The Strange Theory of Light and Matter in which he explains how quantum electrodynamics accounts for all optical phenomena including diffraction, without resorting to a wave explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidharath Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 thank you for guidance can QED explain diffraction and interferance of sound waves without using wave nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 thank you for guidance can QED explain diffraction and interferance of sound waves without using wave nature QED doesn't deal with sound, it deals with electrodynamics at the quantum level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmacrock Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 matter exhibits dual nature while in motion Is there internal change in matter while in motion:? is there any mechanism for it?i think there mus be some explanation Yes, the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics in the natural sciences as Eugene WIgner described it. But I was really thinking of the ineffectiveness of the fairy stories we construct to visualise physical systems we can't in fact see. Electrons in orbit of nuclei, that sort of thing. These constructs are ultimately unhelpful I think. We cannot really know what such inaccessible systems are like apart from how they behave in certain situations - the results of experiments or observations in other words. i think we can know how these systems behave if we start looking at them from a different perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffon Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I don't understand what you mean except in the sense it's always good to observe the behaviour of any physical system in different ways, novel ways in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureGenius Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I think the dual notion as in particle wave are actually nothing more than a flaw in human observation not in the nature of reality itself. It is indeed a good qestion science moves forward on the wheels of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enthalpy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Quantum mechanics explains and predicts observations properly and with an excellent accuracy. What would you call "the nature of reality" ? How would you prove that this so-called nature is a better choice for us than QM? Are there observations, experiments, measures that allow us to tell that "the nature of reality" is better than QM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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