bloodhound Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 BNP hired a black DJ by mistake http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1200735.html i cannot believe parties like BNP exist and even have support in todays day and age.
Phi for All Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 Why did I have the impression that the British were farther along when it comes to racial tolerance? The BNP sounds like the KKK.
Ophiolite Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 The BNP sounds like the KKK. Very similar, but they lack the clan's well known intellect and charm. Bloodhound, brilliant story. The way to deal with the BNP is either by ignoring them, or ridiculing them. Ridiculing them is so much more fun. This shows them up so clearly for the bigoted idiots they are. The DJ now has a story he'll be telling for decades. Hopefully when he tells it to his grandchildren they will say 'What's the BNP?'
Artorius Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 To think of the BNP as inherently racist only shows ignorance,.Their actual policies are no more aggresive than the SNP.However much the media want to brainwash people into believing all members are racial bigots.I understand that some of them may be,however the majority of members only want equal opportunities to mean just that...for all,not just for the ethnic minority.Why should a company be forced to employ a workforce made up of percentages of aged,coloured,handicapped.Its political correctness to its extremes.At Durham two of my colleagues,one asian and one thalidomide hold positions that a blind man can see they are unqualified for.However the university must employ them,regardless of their suitability because they were the best candidates that applied fulfilling the criteria placed on the university.
Sayonara Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 None of the BNP members told the DJ who his audience was - and kept their racist beliefs to themselves. Garner added: "We had to be careful what we said. What are you supposed to do? Tell him to clear off. It was very' date=' very embarrassing."[/quote'] ROFL Artorius, likening the BNP to an anti-CP movement is pretty effin naive, no matter what your personal views on the "obviously unqualified" are.
MulderMan Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 i dont think they have any chance to get into government anyway, i remember there was that bbc investigation into them a while ago with the secret filming.
Phi for All Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 Why should a company be forced to employ a workforce made up of percentages of aged,coloured,handicapped.Because that's what society is made up of.
MulderMan Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 i think hes on about the actual abilities of the other employees. shouldnt political correctness look past people colours instead of dwelling on them. its like in school, most questions on an exam paper refer to an ethnic child. and in educational "videos" there has to be an equal number of black to white children.
YT2095 Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 What`s wrong with BNP? I`m a Bristish National and I love to Party seriously, the only reason I voted for them the last time was they were the only party that was going to stop our local swimming pool (built in the Victorian era) that`s ALWAYS been a swimming pool, from turning into yet ANOTHER mosque! BNP didn`t get in, but there was that much local protest against it anyway, that it`s still a Swimming pool, and has been re-fitted and done out quite nicely
Jordan14 Posted January 8, 2005 Posted January 8, 2005 I personally think that the BNP Party hides it's racist intensions by dressing them up as a political party - a fake polical party. And I think that no-one should support them and their racist ideas.
Drug addict Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 To think of the BNP as inherently racist only shows ignorance,.Their actual policies are no more aggresive than the SNP. ok then... The SNP is a democratic left-of-centre political party committed to Scottish Independence. It aims to create a just, caring and enterprising society by releasing Scotland's full potential as an independent nation in the mainstream of modern Europe. if you really think BNP policies are no more aggressive than SNP policies I think you need to do a little bit of research into the respective parties. the SNP website is http://www.snp.org/ I refuse on principle to post a link to the BNP site, but here's a story about their leader: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1373951,00.html However much the media want to brainwash people into believing all members are racial bigots.I understand that some of them may be,however the majority of members only want equal opportunities to mean just that...for all,not just for the ethnic minority.Why should a company be forced to employ a workforce made up of percentages of aged,coloured,handicapped.Its political correctness to its extremes.At Durham two of my colleagues,one asian and one thalidomide hold positions that a blind man can see they are unqualified for.However the university must employ them,regardless of their suitability because they were the best candidates that applied fulfilling the criteria placed on the university. you want to know about employment statistics? fine. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=462&Pos=3&ColRank=2&Rank=1000 http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=979&Pos=1&ColRank=2&Rank=1000 and here's something about stop and search: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/docs3/Newsletter_30Nov.pdf so don't give me any of that rubbish about equal opportunities or political corectness gone mad. YT what part of Brum do you live in?
MulderMan Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 going back to their site (bnp) some of their non racist policies look alright, eg pensioners before asylum seekers, and the one about getting away from europe. isnt there some law about racist partys or do they use clever loopoles?
Vladimir Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 going back to their site (bnp) some of their non racist policies look alright, eg pensioners before asylum seekers That is racist, to say that one member of society is more important than the other is just wrong. Im not justifying the kkks actions but didnt they do it in response to their former uneducated slaves now being in charge of them? ever read gone witht he wind? I still cant look at southern island on teh map without cringing, i just feel violated and apalled that somebody would want to leave the United Kingdom of England Ireland and Scotland. I though scotland already had its own government? or sre teh snp trying to become an independant member of teh european union?
MulderMan Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 stop picking arguments! maybe i said that wrong, i think there should be more regulations on immigration and asylum.
Vladimir Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 Yes at the moment we have an open door policy and we need to solve that, but what the BNP want is something far more, loss for words at teh moment.
Ophiolite Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 Right, we are drifting off topic, but... I still cant look at southern island on teh map without cringing, i just feel violated and apalled that somebody would want to leave the United Kingdom of England Ireland and Scotland. Huh! I take it that by southern island you mean the Republic of Ireland. They have been independent since the 1920's. Why would that desire appall you? One could make a very long list of justifications. The role of English indifference in the deaths of 750,000 in the potato famine of the 1840s should be sufficient. I though scotland already had its own government? or sre teh snp trying to become an independant member of teh european union? Yes. The SNP still seek full independence.
ed84c Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 well if people still agree in fredom of speach then it is no surprise that we have a BNP.
Vladimir Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 Its the same with amereeka. Actually i think it was a few years ago that blair apoligized for it. The desire to become independant from a greater whole, to make yourself less than something you were, that does not apeal to me. The same with the collapse of the soviet states.
YT2095 Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 YT what part of Brum do you live in? In a little $hit hole town called Tipton, about 2 klicks west of Handsworth, Tiptons the place quite a few al quada recruiters and trainees were un earthed, my Wife went to school with 2 of them, and they were obnoxious little ba$ts back then too! I`m glad the Yanks kept em locked up for a while! According to their story (and that`s all it is!) they went back to Afganistan for a Free Computer course!!!! the local Library (the next Victorian building they have theor greedy little eyes on as a Mosque) Does a Free computer Course complete with Certificates and quals! the best part is that the Library is less than 45 foot away from their house!!!! Baaah
Sayonara Posted January 9, 2005 Posted January 9, 2005 Do you think you could avoid assigning characteristics like "greedy" to swathes of our population just because society agrees with them that they should be able to practice their faith?
Aardvark Posted January 19, 2005 Posted January 19, 2005 Because that's what society is made up of. I'm curious, do you believe that business's should hire people according to percentages of social make up rather than according to ability?
Phi for All Posted January 19, 2005 Posted January 19, 2005 I'm curious, do you believe that business's should hire people according to percentages of social make up rather than according to ability?No, not in that order. Ability is paramount, but when a business is large enough to hire a broad spectrum of workers, they should look at more than just ability if there are multiple qualified applicants.
Dave Posted January 19, 2005 Posted January 19, 2005 I don't usually comment on such things (because I end up making myself look a fool), but I think it would be a little unfair for a company to turn away someone they think would be a good candidate because they already have x number of white males.
Aardvark Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 No, not in that order. Ability is paramount, but when a business is large enough to hire a broad spectrum of workers, they should look at more than just ability if there are multiple qualified applicants. As far as i can see the only fair way to deal with people is on the basis of ability. If you start looking at other factors you are automatically being unfair and unjust. I don't understand how that can be ethically defended.
Ophiolite Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 You have three children;two of them bright, outgoing, self-motivated, the third, bright but dyslexic, shy, scared of failure. Would you make no extra effort to help the third child realise its potential? I place affirmative actions programs at the same ethical level. Societies are families, writ large.
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