The Free World and Mixing Religions in Government

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“Free World” is a Cold War–era term often used by the U.S. and its allies to describe those countries that were not in the sphere of influence of, or allied with communist states, particularly the Soviet Union or the People’s Republic of China, but which showed a strong commitment to ideologies of liberalism and capitalism. It is often used interchangeably with “First World”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World

The term usually refers to countries such as the United States, the United Kingdom, France, West Germany, and organizations such as the European Union and NATO. In addition, the “Free World” includes the Commonwealth realms, Japan, Israel, and India.

The “Leader of the Free World” is a colloquialism, first used during the Cold War, to describe either the United States or the President of the United States. The term, when used in this context, suggests that the United States is the principal democratic superpower, and the U.S. President is, by extension, the leader of the world’s democratic states, i.e. the “Free World”.

Why exactly do we have a leader of the free world? This makes the word “free” redundant. Shouldn’t we have a democratic free world system? Every country in the free world is democratic, why is the free world system not democratic? The free world is a dictatorship. Why cant other countries have a say in the decisions of the free world?

I am an Australian Christian and this means I am part of the free world and led by the United States of America. I like the United States but unfortunately they are mixing religions in their government. The USA in 1999 is under the same degree of Jewish domination that Weimar Germany was under in 1929 and now its 2013.

http://rense.com/general59/sdom.htm

Almost every country in the free world is Christian and there is a reason for this and for not mixing religions in government. Religions have very different agendas, their own agendas and they fight with each other on issues that are written in stone. Its well known that the Jewish leaders crucified Jesus and unfortunately they will be persecuted forever because of this. As a result they cannot lead against Christians because they cannot be a respected enemy against Christians and there is much tension between them. The Jewish choose not to convert to Christianity because of their pride and they continue to be persecuted. At present it appears that the Christians and the Jewish get along in the United States but they have now set precedent. It is a well known fact that the United States is enemy with Islamic countries through their war on terrorism. Are Islamics now allowed to take positions in government in the United States? It doesn’t seem so, but the Jewish are? Have the Christians now taken side with the Jewish in the United States? It seems that the United States government does not understand the permanent tensions between religious groups and they are starting to lose their Christian image. You cant be a Jewish-Christian government, it doesn’t make sense. The Jewish believe Jesus never happened and the Christians believe that the Jewish leaders crucified Jesus. Christians hate Muslims and Jews, Muslims hate Christians and Jews, Jews hate Christians and Muslims. Mixing religions is a recipe for disaster.

The Jewish in the United States secretly lead the Christian free world. We need a democratic free world system.

The United States of America has 8,500 nuclear weapons and Russia has 10,000 nuclear weapons. What exactly do they propose to do with that many nuclear weapons? I cant understand why anyone would require that many nuclear weapons. Why is it that Australia has no nuclear weapons? Does the leader of the free world acknowledge Australia as an ally? Australia has aided the United States in several wars. World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, First Gulf War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War. It would be nice to at least have a few nukes.

Israel has a Jewish based government, 80 nuclear weapons and the Jewish now secretly lead the free world. Is there co-operation between the United States and Israel on nuclear weapons? Israel is part of free world. Where does Israel sit in the free world hierarchy in comparison to Australia?

Pre-1948, Israel was called Palestine and was shared. In 1948 the Jewish were given Palestine and they changed its name to Israel. Those that were not Jewish to the south of the country were boxed into the Gaza Strip. Those that were boxed in were called Palestinians. This is not how I would classify a free country because they are placing a minority group in a closed area and in effect taking away their freedoms. Should we tell Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad to isolate and box in the people his government is fighting so that they could join the free world also? The free world is labeled “free” but the free world has certain issues with freedom.

Israel’s first Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion was “nearly obsessed” with obtaining nuclear weapons to prevent the Holocaust from recurring and wanted Einstein, Oppenheimer and Teller to help him obtain nuclear weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

I wonder why David was so obsessed? Is it because of the endless cycle that the whole world and the innocent Jews need to be put through time and time again? Its simple David, you don’t need nukes, you don’t need Einstein, Oppenheimer, and Teller, you just convert to Christianity, put Jesus on the end of your faith and it wont happen again. You cant exist as a religion if your religion is responsible for crucifying a respected prophet, or in this case with Jesus, the Son of God.

Israel is considered the “Holy Land”, the birth place and burial site for many religious prophets. Jesus was both in Bethlehem, lived in Nazareth and was crucified in Jerusalem. Israel has quite a lot of religious significance to Christians, Muslims and Jews. If you look through the history books there has been countless wars over this land, so it is inevitable that there will be war there once again. This time though, it may be nuclear. The Jewish-Israelis now have 80 nukes and the United States is now a Jewish-Christian government. I predict an utter catastrophe.

Richard Dunn
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Edited April 12, 2013 by imatfaal
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[Ringer]

So this entire thing is just for you bash other religions and to say people should convert to Christianity? Wouldn't an easier solution be for nobody to be religious, then religious tensions wouldn't arise.

 

Also, if you really believe Jewish people secretly run the world it's probably not a good idea to tell them that you hate them. They are watching after all.

[swansont]

"Leader of the free world" is a symbolic title. Saying "The free world is a dictatorship" is hyperbole. The US can't tell what Australia to do. That's why we have diplomats.

 

Jewish conspiracy posts tread a very thin line. You're going to have to do more than assert that "Jewish now secretly lead the free world"

 

Most of the countries in the "free" world are not Christian. Most are secular governments, including the US (though there are some elected officials who are somehow not aware of this). They are not Theocracies.

 

Also, telling a group, "Hey, you should convert to my religion, for your own protection" probably isn't a viable strategy. Why don't you convert to Islam, to protect yourself?

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Section 1.c explicitly bans the use of slurs and prejudice - the characterisation of Israel, Jews, and all non-Christianity in the OP was prejudicial, unsupportable, and bigoted. An accusation of pride for refusing to convert to another religion is undesirable; linking this imputed pride to an entire religion's persecution is completely unacceptable. Equating Christianity to freedom and civilisation is a clear implication of the lack of these attributes in all non-Christians; this is untrue and a slur on all those outside Christianity. Stating that Israel should convert to Christianity to avoid future persecution implies that lack of previous conversion is a just cause for past persecution; this is clearly also inappropriate.

 

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